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Just how badass are you, anyway?


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Old lady H · · Boise, Idaho · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 290

With Honnold's astonishing feat, many of us are probably reflecting on how badass we are...or...aren't.

As a newer climber, it has surprised me to discover that, while no Honnold, I am more bold in some ways than many that I climb with. Put a rope on me, logical or not, I'm good. Falls don't worry me at all. Friends I know loathe falling.

On the other hand, that approach trail with the exposure? Gives me huge pause. Such a wus...

What are your limits and fears? Logical or not, lol!

Have fun! OLH

Hobo Greg · · My Van · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 120

I have soloed up to 5.7 but I'm still scared to take falls on gear. (No correlation per se, but if I'm willing to risk it all, why aren't I willing to risk a small fall when I know I place good gear? I think its because only neutral or bad things can happen if you fall, but if you don't fall, and nothing falls on you, nothing bad can happen.)

David Kerkeslager · · Brooklyn, NY · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 55

Free soloing really isn't in my goals. I respect people who do it, but I have no desire to do it myself.

Jared Murray · · Oakland, CA · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 70
Old lady H wrote:

Put a rope on me, logical or not, I'm good. Falls don't worry me at all.

That may change if you begin leading on gear ... gripped and far above your last piece is much different than being on TR :)

Derick Page · · Ft Collins · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 20

As a new leader and climber, I'm so bad ass that the final bit on the Fifth Flatiron along the arete that's listed as class 4 caught my attention after leading the rest of the south side east face route once I realized that there was no place for pro. I also regularly do the same V0 problems near home and am yet to do anything harder outside. I've been to the new gym in Ft Collins once and decided to only climb inside now since the grades do more for my ego than any outdoor climbing ever.

Ted Pinson · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 190

Certifiable trad dad.

amarius · · Nowhere, OK · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 20

The only bad thing about me is my climbing ability, my ass is just fine, thank you. 

G R · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 65
Old lady H wrote:

With Honnold's astonishing feat, many of us are probably reflecting on how badass we are...or...aren't.

I hope not. What other people do should have no bearing on how you approach your climbing. 

Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 650

I climb just as hard as Honnold, Sharma, or Ondra.  I just do it on easier routes.  

Max Supertramp · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 65

+1 Radlawsk I am still nailing 5.5 classics

Tradster · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 0

Did a solo 5 mile car ride through Compton once. That was badass. :)

Carla R · · San Jose, CA · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 110
Brian wrote:

I climb just as hard as Honnold, Sharma, or Ondra.  I just do it on easier routes.  

+1

Robert Hall · · North Conway, NH · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 12,363

Don't worry about your worring about "that approach trail with the exposure? Gives me huge pause. Such a wus..."  Well, maybe if it really is a "trail", .....but if it's one of those "Class 3 " slabs, then I think you're just being sensible.  A bit of gravel....a slip not expected....these and other things can all lead to the "end". 

I've lost a number of friends climbing, and with only one possible exception (where we don't know the circumstances, he was soloing) NONE "bought the farm" while climbing anything near their limit. One died due to a slip on a boulder on the approach, he fell only a few  feet and hit his head. Another in a canoeing accident nearly identical...a 4-5 ft slip-fall and hit head.   Two others on climbs 5 or 6 grades below what they lead.  Rap failure...

Just a month ago I asked to rap a slab that others were willing to walk down, even though there was 500 ft of cliff still below and no chance to stop a slip.  Ten minutes extra vs your life when there's no issue about a need to hurry, is sort of a "no brainer".  

Hobo Greg · · My Van · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 120
Greg Redlawsk wrote:

I hope not. What other people do should have no bearing on how you approach your climbing. 

I think that's why I'm not really blown away by what Honnold did. It's super duper mega awesome for him, but pretty meaningless to me. I've never climbed the route before, never met the guy, etc. Stoked for him, and laughing at the modern media coverage. "He defies gravity using just his fingertips.. the daring feat.."

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 205
Hobo Greg wrote:

I think that's why I'm not really blown away by what Honnold did. It's super duper mega awesome for him, but pretty meaningless to me. I've never climbed the route before, never met the guy, etc. Stoked for him, and laughing at the modern media coverage. "He defies gravity using just his fingertips.. the daring feat.."

I find the the best way to appreciate what he's done is go hop onto a 5.13 sport route, fail and fall off a bunch think about how horrendously hard this is. Now picture someone doing this 3000ft off the deck.

Gavin Towey · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 0
Old lady H wrote:

Falls don't worry me at all.

I can't imagine ever trad leading where I'm not terrified of falls.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 310

seb ..... good way to explain it.


Hobo.... go to "games without frontiers" in Josh..... its 13 ab ......  hop on it... 

then let it soak into your mind, if your like me you get a little shiver up your spine at the thought of it...


But to OH.... it's wrong to think in terms of Badass. Every solo I ever did-- I had no doubts about the chances of success-- 100% correct.


 If you are not thinking like this you will fail. 








Nick Goldsmith · · Pomfret VT · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 440

I have climbed myself into a few solos where the outcome was not 100%...  mostly on  ice where conditions turned out to be  more funky than expected...

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 205
Guy Keesee wrote:

seb ..... good way to explain it.


Hobo.... go to "games without frontiers" in Josh..... its 13 ab ......  hop on it... 

then let it soak into your mind, if your like me you get a little shiver up your spine at the thought of it...




To properly emulate Honnold's feels it's more like taking your absolute hardest redpoint and then going down a few grades then imagine soloing that at 3000ft of the deck

Alex's is 5.14d-5.13a

This makes me 5.12c-5.10d (I will be onsight soloing 5.10b on a huge alpine face somewhat soon so i'm sure i will get to see how honnold sorta felt on half dome)

If you do this for your self It probably gives the most accurate feeling, I feel like this really lets me appreciate people like Honnolds skill and strength being able to be that comfortable on something that insanely hard.

Old lady H · · Boise, Idaho · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 290

Sorry MP, I'm an old lady with a short memory.

I forgot how seriously some of you take the word "badass", lol!

Guy, in the Honnold thread I certainly did express my admiration of his astounding focus, to the extent of not just his mental, but physical control, and the physical mastery too.

Me? Really, not much of a badass at all, except I'm still here, trying to keep chugging away at it, when "quit" is whispering in the background almost constantly.

That level/aspect of badassery I'm guessing is common to many of us, whether it's one boulder problem, or the whole shebang.

Best, Helen

wendy weiss · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 30

In my limited experience, people who are badass don't think they are and people who think they are aren't.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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