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Maxim Ropes? How are they?


Mark Berenblum · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 105

I've had a 60m glider (I think it's 10.2?) for 3 years and have found it to be very durable. I paid $120ish when i bought it (60m, dry, no bi-pattern), and that seemed like a very good deal at the time when I compared it to others with similar specs. I'd say it feels heavy for the diameter, the pattern I have is not particularly cool (but whatever), and it's true that it doesn't hold knots as well as others when it's new. But it broke in nicely, seems durable as hell, and was a good price.  My skinnier ropes aren't Maxims, but I'll definitely consider one of their skinnier ropes when it's time to get another. 

BTW, FWIW, Maxim is the climbing brand of Teufelberger. They have a reputation for excellent cordage across many industries, and are definitely not an unknown or bootstrapped operation.

T.J. Esposito · · San Diego, CA · Joined May 2011 · Points: 85
Ryan Hamilton wrote:

I have used other Maxim ropes that I liked, but I had a Maxim Glider 9.9 and I absolutely hated it. It was SO stiff and hard to belay with, especially from above in guide mode. Pulling slack through grigri kind of sucked too. I sold it after using it a few times. It might have broken in if I used it more, but honestly, I've used lots of other ropes and that was the worst. 

I feel the same way, Maxim makes (in my opinion, based on my desired rope characteristics) the WORST ropes.  Names like Glider and Airliner should really be Steel Cable and Rebar.  If I'm cragging with multiple people and someone needs a catch on a Maxim, I'll volunteer my own rope (usually a Sterling) instead of deal with what feels like 18.5 mm of high tension line stuffed into my belay device.  I can totally see why Honnold gets the ropes for free(?) and still doesn't use them :-P

Ryan Hamilton · · Orem · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 20
Healyje wrote:

Yeah the 9.9 Gliders are stiff due to the twill sheath weave which is quite a bit finer, tighter and smoother than most rope sheath weaves. In many respects it handles a lot like a Mammut SuperSafe 10.2. But those qualities are what I need for pairing with my Edelrid Eddy for roped soloing - might look at other ropes for climbing with partners. None of the ten that i've owned ever got much in the way of sheath damage to speak of except one that was a couple of years old and somewhat abused.

Take a look at Tendon Hattrick series of ropes, soon to be available through campsaver.com. Nice smooth weave on the sheath, but still has a really nice hand. Falls nicely between the stiff Maxim ropes and floppy Petzl ropes. Really good for rope solo and standard climbing/belay situations. 

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 295
Ryan Hamilton wrote:

Take a look at Tendon Hattrick series of ropes, soon to be available through campsaver.com. Nice smooth weave on the sheath, but still has a really nice hand. Falls nicely between the stiff Maxim ropes and floppy Petzl ropes. Really good for rope solo and standard climbing/belay situations. 

I was using Tendon 9.8's before switching to the 9.9 Gliders, will take a look next rope - thanks.

[EDIT: Just looked. Unfortunately they dropped from the 9.8 to a 9.7 and I really feel more comfortable lead rope soloing with a 9.8 or 9.9 in the Edelrid Eddy. Tuning the device / rope pairing is pretty critical and am not too inclined to move away from a combo I know works well...thanks anyway though. ]

Ryan Hamilton · · Orem · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 20
Healyje wrote:

I was using Tendon 9.8's before switching to the 9.9 Gliders, will take a look next rope - thanks.

[EDIT: Just looked. Unfortunately they dropped from the 9.8 to a 9.7 and I really feel more comfortable lead rope soloing with a 9.8 or 9.9 in the Edelrid Eddy. Tuning the device / rope pairing is pretty critical and am not too inclined to move away from a combo I know works well...thanks anyway though. ]

They have a Hattrick 9.9, as well as 9.7, 10.2, 10.5. 

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 295
Ryan Hamilton wrote:

They have a Hattrick 9.9, as well as 9.7, 10.2, 10.5. 

Maybe they've stopped making the 9.9 - at least it's not up on their website.

[EDIT:  I did finally find it in their 2017 pdf catalog. ]

Ryan Hamilton · · Orem · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 20
Healyje wrote:

Maybe they've stopped making the 9.9 - at least it's not up on their website

They make it, they just don't have it on their website. I work for the US distributor and we have some in our warehouse. Sorry to turn this into a Tendon conversation, I've just been extremely happy with the quality of the ropes since I started climbing on them a couple of years ago. Some of their older ropes are not nearly as good as the newer ropes. The Hattrick ropes are amazing for duability and handling in the bigger sizes. The Master 9.4 and new Master Pro 9.2 are my favorite ropes for trad and sport climbing. 

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 295

No problem, I went through about a half dozen or so of the Tendon 9.8s before I decided that extra mm of the 9.9 was worth having in the rope solo rig. Will take a look next time I'm getting one.

Mark L · · New York, NY · Joined May 2017 · Points: 0

Getting mixed reviews of the 9.9mm glider; I'm glad I purchased it at REI in the event that it doesn't work out so well.  

Ryan Hamilton · · Orem · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 20

In case anyone is wondering I just posted some of our overstock of Tendon ropes, including Hattrick 9.9, to the for sale page. https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/113113976/overstock-sale-new-tendon-ropes

Emmett Lyman · · Somerville, MA · Joined Feb 2011 · Points: 480

Can't believe that no one's yet suggested getting Totems instead of the rope. Must be a slow day.

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 295

Just cut the new 70m Honnold Glider I got a deal on down to a 60m because that's what fits in the bag I rope solo with and I don't want to carry the weight of a full 70m at the start of pitches. Don't think ill of me...

John Ryan · · Poncha Springs, CO · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 165

I just cut my Maxim 70m x 9.5mm in half due to a weird fray and severe kinking and swollen section after about 5 uses. This occurred in a rappel. I inspected the core after chopping, and could not find any damage. I'm guessing one or two of the fiber bundles got severely twisted and pinched. 

Billcoe · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 655

My son bought me the 9.9 x 70M Bi-pattern Honnold Glider as a gift. He knows I'm too cheap to buy a bi-pattern. Anyway, I was planning on coddling it. He knew I climbed a lot of pitches, that I rotate my ropes (that is, have dedicated 11mm for topropes, a 60M x 9.1 Beal for certain lead climbs, a 70M x 9.1 Beal for other lead climbs, 5 static lines for various projects etc etc) and requested that I get it out and use it. So I did. Lots of mileage. Used it pretty much exclusivly, even did some toproping on it. Lasted 1 season and got core shot. Not too bad of a core shot so I took it back up to the project, then lost confidence looking down 900 feet below me while jugging an overhang on it. HOWEVER, that was working on a 1100+ foot new route aid project and one of the partners weighs @ 250 lbs. 

Jugging, new route (thus sharper edges), lots of weight, skinnier rope...unhh, nope. No rope could be expected to do well in that situation, and in fact, the "brand new" Sterling 11.2mm rope I'm using as a replacement up there now is not looking all that swole either. The project is done and I just go lap the lower pitches so there shouldn't be a lot of stress on it, solo climb, rap, jug. Here's the photo of the 9.9 Maxim Glider I sent him when I thanked him. Rope was 2 weeks old and no aid climbing on it at this point. One of my partners had rapped off the ends (instead of undoing it from and atc, not a fall or anything, just lazyness) and the tape on one side had popped off which you can see "at the other end". 


 

Maybe he'll get me another one this Christmas:-) Last Christmas he bought me a sweet Ego cordless electric chainsaw I've been working the hell out of to clear the access road to this place. 



Opps, not that tree.^^ only a 16" saw.



Looming^^^








Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 650

Like others have said,  very durable, a bit stiff.  They tend to have higher impact force than other similar size ropes.  9.9 KN.

Alex Hartshorne · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

I got a Pinnacle 9.5mm (really 9.7mm) for cheap in Squamish this year. Whilst It's been durable enough to use as my primary line and even left for weeks at a time as a fixed line on the chief, you can't overlook how poorly it handles. The strange weave and stiffness make this rope a chore to clip and feed through grigri etc. All in all a good rope as a durable and cheap workhorse but unsuited to more technical climbing.

Joe Garibay · · Ventura, Ca · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 98

I have an older 9.8 glide 70m that I love. My partner says it’s too stiff compared to his mammut. 

frank minunni · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined May 2011 · Points: 96

Every time I buy a non-Mammut rope I'm disappointed.  These days I just go with Mammut.  I've never had one I didn't like.

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