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Pre-placed quickdraws

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Jackson Chambers · · Springville, Utah · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 0

There are a couple routes where I climb, that have quickdraws that are already clipped into the bolts. I've seen them there for the last year, and I'm sure they've been there longer. They look like they're in pretty good condition, and are on an overhanging  cliff, but I've never seen anyone climb on them... should I trust them, or take them down and replace them with some new draws?

unemployed astronaut · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 0

Personally I'd use them but don't climb on them if you don't trust them. I'd say if you do take them down either leave yours or put the originals back up when you're done

jmmlol · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 0

They're likely left by locals who are projecting a climb. 

rozaosa · · Mordor · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 10

Are they PermaDraws? If not I'd replace them with your own. I wouldn't trust anything that's been suspect of weathering out for years. 

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 205

Replacing them with new draws dating them and then covering the sling for UV protection would be best practice and if you are willing I don't see anyone getting mad at you for doing so.

M Sprague · · New England · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 4,966

If they are old crap, take them down even if you can't leave replacements. 

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