what else to buy ?
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Hi, |
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oh, yeah, and i've got no climbing shoes yet, either :) |
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After you get shoes, find someone experienced to learn from, take a course or hire a guide for a couple of days. Your question shows you need some instruction. |
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be sure to ALWAYS climb on a dynamic climbing rope and not a static rope. |
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I have never climbedi n europe but the rope you bought is worthless for any lead climbing and questionable for top rope climbing. If you were in the US a rope of that size would probably be worthless in at least 75% of the areas due to being short, there are alot of areas where you can get by with 50m rope but it is still going to be to small for alot of US areas. 39m would be a major problem. I would go get a 60m dynamic rope to climb on. (70m will be good for 99% of climbs out there but a 60m will probably get you by on over 90%) |
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If you are just getting into climbing all you will need right now are: |
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ViperScale wrote:I have never climbedi n europe but the rope you bought is worthless for any lead climbing and questionable for top rope climbing. If you were in the US a rope of that size would probably be worthless in at least 75% of the areas due to being short, there are alot of areas where you can get by with 50m rope but it is still going to be to small for alot of US areas. 39m would be a major problem. I would go get a 60m dynamic rope to climb on. (70m will be good for 99% of climbs out there but a 60m will probably get you by on over 90%) You may want to get some slings or short rope like 5m or so for setting up top rope off of trees if no anchors exist (probably be fine getting someone with a hot knife to cut your 39m static rope into 5-10m sections to use for building anchors off trees). Pre-sewn webbing slings are good for certain rope routes to avoid rope drag but most sport areas it isn't needed.Not much need for building toprope anchors over here, it´ll be bolted anyway. Standard practice is NEVER wander around the top of the cliff anyway, most areas it is prohibited so either you climb the route or there will be a path to suitable anchors. A couple of 60cm slings can be useful. 60m rope is standard but it depends on where in SW Germany you climb, I can´t imagine anywhere you´d use a 70 really. Half the time I use a 40. A chalk bag is missing from the gear list! |
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Can't tell if trolling.... |
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1st part of shipment arrived, checked in detail and in flawless condition. |
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seth jones, here's a picture for you |
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Since when do Germans talk about "losing pounds" instead of kilos? Now I'm a bit suspicious. New account too. Also didnt answer my PM in German.... |
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i'm only a part-time troll. but can be serious too. if need might arise. |
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Climb Germany wrote:Since when do Germans talk about "losing pounds" instead of kilos? Now I'm a bit suspicious. New account too. Also didnt answer my PM in German....Where do you order a 55m rope from? does mammut even sell that size? According to mammut.ch/US/en_US/B2C-Kate… mammut doesn't make a 55m rope. |
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ViperScale wrote: Where do you order a 55m rope from? does mammut even sell that size? According to mammut.ch/US/en_US/B2C-Kate… mammut doesn't make a 55m rope.Obviously they don't offer one any more, but back in 1994 when that rope was originally purchased they certainly did. |
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Jim Titt wrote: Standard practice is NEVER wander around the top of the cliff anyway, most areas it is prohibited so either you climb the route or there will be a path to suitable anchors.Jim, Why is it standard practice and prohibited to wander on top of the cliff? To minimize risk of falling? Just curious because I have not heard of this before. |
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Austin Todd wrote: Jim, Why is it standard practice and prohibited to wander on top of the cliff? To minimize risk of falling? Just curious because I have not heard of this before.Erosion control and to minimize damage to the clifftop vegetation. The Euros are way ahead of us in this regard. |
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Ken Noyce wrote: Erosion control and to minimize damage to the clifftop vegetation. The Euros are way ahead of us in this regard.plus you have the n00bfest ala Gunks style people wandering the edge of the cliff kicking pebbles and dropping gear down on peoples faces and heads so they can get the ultimate TR in for the day |
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It's usualy environmental as mentioned. There are also cases of there being private property directly when you top out. So basically you can climb, but if you top out your trespassing or in some kind of protected area (e.g. environmentally protected "zone") |
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Ken Noyce wrote: Erosion control and to minimize damage to the clifftop vegetation. The Euros are way ahead of us in this regard.That´s about it. The zone where it changes from a vertical cliff with bare rock to the normal topsoil is the most interesting area botanically and holds the largest variety of plants and insects making the best of both environments. The base of the cliff on the other hand is usually completely uninteresting fortunately. Topping out is usually horrific anyway, climbing overhanging leafmould and moss concealing loose rocks and f#ck knows what creepy insects. |
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second part of kit has arrived |
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3rd part of kit has arrived |