Scarpa Boot Sizing


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Stever · · Squamish, BC · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 5

I have a 3 season mountaineering boot (Scarpa Charmoz, size 41) that fits perfectly and is very comfortable. For winter mountaineering I bought a pair of LS Nepal Evo's based on fit and comparison to the scarpa summit (size 40.5, the LS fit better).

My friend traded me his Scarpa Freney XT for some climbing gear, (new, size 41) and the boot feels massive on my foot. My heel moved around like it wasn't laced (even though it was laced tight). It felt like a totally different boot...

Has anyone else experienced inconsistent Scarpa boot sizing? I thought a 41 in one model would be the same size as 41 in another model. Any comments on what I could do, besides selling?

Thanks in advance!

Nick Drake · · Newcastle, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 478

Charmoz pro after 2014 are built on a different last. They have been going to the NAG last from the rebel line. Much snugger.

Stever · · Squamish, BC · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 5

The charmoz I have are circa 2012

Nick Drake · · Newcastle, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 478

Well then I have absolutely no idea. I can say that sizing between rebel carbon, rebel pro, and the last gen phantom 6000 (zip up the center) was all similar.

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

Personally I love Scarpas, but they've always been known for a bit of heel lift.

As far as inconsistencies I've worn pretty much every boot Scarpas made and the only one that I remember being different was the phantoms.

Stever · · Squamish, BC · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 5
Scott McMahon wrote:Personally I love Scarpas, but they've always been known for a bit of heel lift. As far as inconsistencies I've worn pretty much every boot Scarpas made and the only one that I remember being different was the phantoms.
Yes it's heel lift that I am getting. I was surprised because my charmoz doesn't have heel lift, but the Freney XT does
Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

yeah unfortunately it's a boot that doesn't always work for everyone. For me I can't wear most La Sportiva lasts because the toe box is to narrow. Except for the Nepals which fit more like a Scarpa.

Eddie Ferrer · · Portland, OR · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 25

Have you checked out SizeSquirrel?

SizeSquirrel - Charmoz Pro GTX

Admittedly, many more rock climbing shoes than mountaineering boots. But this is the exact problem I was trying to solve.

I'll add the Freney to the site soon, since it is missing from the site.

grubbers · · Mass. · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 15

I can't remember if they are on the same last, but I have the Rebel Pro, Mont Blanc Pro, and Phantom Tech all in the same size and they all fit me quite well.

Allen Sanderson · · Oootah · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,135

Toss a SuperFeet footbed in there - that will take up some of the room and probably eliminate the heal lift.

Stever · · Squamish, BC · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 5
Allen Sanderson wrote:Toss a SuperFeet footbed in there - that will take up some of the room and probably eliminate the heal lift.
Interesting...I have an orthotic foot bed I may try as well
Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 2,740
Allen Sanderson wrote:Toss a SuperFeet footbed in there - that will take up some of the room and probably eliminate the heal lift.
I have SCARPA Freney XTs also and I put a thin (1/8" or so) layer of dense foam under the stock liner to take up some room. It makes a huge difference for me, and provides some much-appreciated underfoot insulation.
Stever · · Squamish, BC · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 5
Gunkiemike wrote: I have SCARPA Freney XTs also and I put a thin (1/8" or so) layer of dense foam under the stock liner to take up some room. It makes a huge difference for me, and provides some much-appreciated underfoot insulation.
Where did you get the foam from? Did you line the whole footbed?
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