Camp Dyon: New lightweight hookless biner


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nathanael · · Riverside, CA · Joined May 2011 · Points: 204

http://www.camp-usa.com/products/carabiners/dyon/







33g 1.2 oz
21mm gate opening

Same weight as a WC Helium (33g, 27mm). Same gate opening as a BD OZ but heavier (22mm, 28g).

At least the nose should fit through even the smallest piton heads, the OZ and even the Helium can both be a pain sometimes.

Would have thought they could make it a bit lighter to match the OZ, the Camp Photon is quite impressive at 29g for a full size biner (28mm gate).

Has anyone had the chance to handle one?

BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 5

the gate looks like a safety pin turned sideways

nathanael · · Riverside, CA · Joined May 2011 · Points: 204

Ha also probably worth noting is the price!
At $15 it makes everything but DMM look like budget picks. BD Oz is $9. Helium around $14.

Luc-514 · · Montreal, Quebec · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,438

I can just see this opening way too easily when rubbing on the rock or another piece of equipment.
I look for the carabiner nose protecting a wire gate from opening, this is the complete opposite...

Nick Drake · · Newcastle, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 438

Good point on gate opening when rubbing. Hopefully they ran a higher gate tension than on the photons.

It does have an impressive 11k open strength though.

Nick Sweeney · · Spokane, WA · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 615

I used a bunch of these carabiners while ice climbing in Canada this weekend - they are awesome!

Muscrat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 3,040
Luc-514 wrote:I can just see this opening way too easily when rubbing on the rock or another piece of equipment. I look for the carabiner nose protecting a wire gate from opening, this is the complete opposite...
This.
mattm · · TX · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 550
Nathanael wrote:Helium around $14.
Heliums can be found for half that if you dig around a little.
Muscrat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 3,040
mattm wrote: Heliums can be found for half that if you dig around a little.
$7?Really? Where?
Luc-514 · · Montreal, Quebec · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,438

At MEC, the WC Helium 2 are $43.00 CAD each ($32.83 USD), add 5% federal tax and deduct 15% when you buy 5+ gives you $14.65 USD/each.
Once upon a time MEC had good prices :(

GearX has the QDs for $26.95

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 1,865
Luc-514 wrote:At MEC, the WC Helium 2 are $43.00 CAD each ($32.83 USD), add 5% federal tax and deduct 15% when you buy 5+ gives you $14.65 USD/each.
So $32.83 + 5% and minus 15% equals $14.65????? In Washington DC that's called "alternative math".

But more to the point:
http://www.backcountrygear.com/wild-country-helium-2-clean-wire.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA0L_FBRDMmaCTw5nxm-ABEiQABn-VqRSkXfbeUc7ypCsltCWmouXxNe-Pi7HlvDIOy7LKn1oaAh3G8P8HAQ
Nick Sweeney · · Spokane, WA · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 615
Gunkiemike wrote: So $32.83 + 5% and minus 15% equals $14.65????? In Washington DC that's called "alternative math". But more to the point: backcountrygear.com/wild-co...
Hahaha. My thoughts exactly
Luc-514 · · Montreal, Quebec · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,438
Gunkiemike wrote: So $32.83 + 5% and minus 15% equals $14.65????? In Washington DC that's called "alternative math". But more to the point: backcountrygear.com/wild-co...
$43.00 CAD per quickdraw! = $32.83 USD
32.83 - 15% (4.9245) = 27.9055
27.9055 + 5% (1.395275) = 29.30078
$29.30 per QD = $14.65 per biner

I was starting to think I was going crazy there
mattm · · TX · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 550
Muscrat wrote: $7?Really? Where?
TrekkInn - I didn't "need" more heliums but at this price...

You won't get them in 2 days but I've had 100% positive from the "Inns". The amount of Castelli/Sportful I've purchased from them is ridiculous.

WC Deal
Systematic · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 271

Ongoing review of CAMP Dyon:

https://www.mountainproject.com/v/clean-nose-carabiners-camp-dyon-detailed-review-ongoing/112540665

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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