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Marcusen · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 0

Hello I want to start top roping but I only have a harness shoes and a belay device. What gear should I get? also there are many of trees and boulders to anchor onto. Thank you.

Joe Garibay · · Ventura, Ca · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 90

Rope, lockers, webbing, and instruction

Chris C. · · Seattle, WA · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 266

Significant safety instruction.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Marcusen wrote:Hello I want to start top roping but I only have a harness shoes and a belay device. What gear should I get? also there are many of trees and boulders to anchor onto. Thank you.
A clue.
Seriously, you don't need gear yet - you need instruction.
(and if this isn't an all-time troll...)
Marcusen · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 0

I have been climbing for a couple of years now and I want to get my own gear. I climb 5.9 without a problem and want to climb more places than just a gym. I have had plenty of instruction but still willing to learn more. I was just curious on the best gear to get to set up for top roping with a tree anchor.

Muscrat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 3,610

A truck, preferably 4 wheel drive with 17" wheels and ABS.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 275
Marcusen wrote:I have been climbing for a couple of years now and I want to get my own gear. I climb 5.9 without a problem and want to climb more places than just a gym. I have had plenty of instruction but still willing to learn more. I was just curious on the best gear to get to set up for top roping with a tree anchor.
Do you have any climbing partners for outdoor climbing? You would be well-served to find someone experienced to climb with before you start building your own anchors.

If you are not sure what gear you need to build a top rope anchor, you have not had enough instruction.
eli poss · · Durango, Co · Joined May 2014 · Points: 456

For tree or boulder anchors you're gonna need either 1" webbing or static cord in the 7mm-10mm range. Which one will come down to personal preference. I use 7mm cord, although some people would say it needs to be thicker. If you've got rough surfaces or sharp edges then you'll want something thicker, like 9mm-10mm, especially if you're using it frequently. I get by with 7mm because I rarely use it and don't encounter super abrasive rock or sharp edges.

You will want it to be twice the length from the tree to the edge of the cliff + another 10-15 ft to account for tying knots. If you don't know how to set it up or what knots to tie then get somebody experienced to show you or get a guide. You'll also need a couple of lockers, a climbing rope, belay device, helmet, and willing partner. Good luck and know when to ask for help. It might just save your life.

tsherry · · Portland, OR · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 518

Best piece of "gear" you can get is a good mentor that can instruct you on climbing and belaying safely. That person will have all the gear you need.

Tyler Metheney · · St Louis · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 0

Consensus is more knowledge and or a more experienced partner. Outdoors is serious business. Take it from me a guy who recently switched from gym to crag. Although I don't TR it seems by logic a completely safe way to climb, accidents can happen though.I'd watch a couple vids on YouTube if you absolutely must teach yourself. Have you ever considered learning to lead climb? Anywho good luck an be smart.

Old lady H · · Boise, Idaho · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 290

Just post on here, at your gym, hunt for a gym to crag class, anything like that, and find some kind souls who will get you out on real rock. There are plenty of us around, and if you have only climbed indoors, find out if you even enjoy outside climbing before investing in anything more than food and/or beverages and/or gas.

Then kiss your money and former life good bye.

Best, OLH

brian n · · Manchester, WA · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 91

I also concur with all the comments on gaining knowledge and experience but to answer your original query in the form of a personal account...

In my early days of climbing I lost my partner/mentor to a job relocation and wasn't ready to lead. My wife and I had harnesses, shoes, etc... I went and bought a rope, a few lockers, and 70 feet of 1 inch webbing. We top roped on nothing but slung boulders and trees for 2 years on dozens of climbs in Colorado and Washington state. I cut the webbing into various lengths and used water knots almost exclusively.

In retrospect, if I had more money I might have just bought a static rope instead of the webbing. It would have more than 1 use (rapelling and setting up top rope).

Robin S · · OR · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 30

Get a mentor--there is so much more to climbing outside than in the gym, regardless of ability.

Ted Pinson · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 190

So, the reason why people are recommending experience rather than gear is because, with proper instruction, you should know what gear you'll need to setup a toprope. Although it is relatively straightforward, the consequences for screwing it up are rather severe (death), so it's a really good idea to have somebody who can inspect your anchor and provide feedback. If you don'f know anyone with outdoor experience, your best bet will be hiring a professional guide and taking an anchors class. They'll show you a few different techniques utilizing various types of gear, and then you'll know what you want to buy and why.

Nathan Flaim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 0

Whatever gear you choose,be sure to carry it all around in the burliest haul bag you can afford.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65

I want to build a Ferrari. What parts should I buy? What tools will I need?

Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25

read Largo's book, get the gear you need to build an anchor in your area and have fun. it's not rocket science.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/climbing-anchors-3rd-john-long/1120177978/2675798728313?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+Books_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP1755&k_clickid=3x1755 Anchors by John Long

AndrewArroz · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 10
Marcusen wrote:Hello I want to start top roping but I only have a harness shoes and a belay device. What gear should I get? also there are many of trees and boulders to anchor onto. Thank you.
Obviously, you'll want a climbing rope.

If you're slinging trees and boulders I highly recommend buying a nice piece or couple pieces of 9mm-10mm static line. When I set up topropes I find nothing more useful than the 40-foot and 65-foot static ropes I keep just for that purpose.

You'll need some locking carabiners and I would also advise learning to use either a prussik or a gri-gri to safely self-belay at the edge of the cliff while setting up your TRs.
Nick Drake · · Newcastle, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 483

A coffin.

AndrewArroz · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 10
Nick Drake wrote:A coffin.
Really? So dramatic? The guy is talking about buying some gear and learning to set up a top-rope. Not like so many people who come here asking what they need to buy to climb El Cap next summer.

It's a totally manageable and reasonable goal. Even if the way the question was asked leaves some possible doubt.
Nick Drake · · Newcastle, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 483
AndrewArroz wrote: Really? So dramatic? The guy is talking about buying some gear and learning to set up a top-rope. Not like so many people who come here asking what they need to buy to climb El Cap next summer. It's a totally manageable and reasonable goal. Even if the way the question was asked leaves some possible doubt.
Ask a ridiculous question and I'll give a ridiculous trolling response. This is a forum for discussing gear, not "here let me google that for you".
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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