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s kf · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 0

Full 30 minute documentary is available on vimeo for $9. Watching it now- worth paying to support the filmmakers and Nalle in my opinion!

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I'm really curious how future attempts/ascents will go. Who gets the second ascent? Ondra? Woods? Webb? Will they agree with the proposed V17/9A grade?

Nick Reecy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 33,240

Saw someone mention a possible flash by Ondra on another forum. At first I thought how absurd that sounds. But I'd imagine there is a real chance. Considering the beta is now in full light, it's been shown to be possible, and the short nature of the route. Slightly different dimensions of a climber could make any one of the moves a very different experience from Nalle's. I'd imagine Ondra has at least had the thought cross his mind.

JKeller · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 5

Lol

Ted Pinson · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 190

That would be a real dick move.

Chan Shin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 0

why? problems are established for others to challenge and verify its grade

Mark O'Neal · · Nicholson, GA · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 1,285

Video is free on BD website right now for 5 days

Eric Carlos · · Chattanooga, TN · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 40

Worth watching!

Will Esposito · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Recently I was compiling a list of V15+ problems and senders and realized that Nalle has never sent a 16. Yes, he sent Gioia, but its first grading, by Core, was 15 (it was Ondra who, as second, graded it 16; Nalle declined to affirm either the original or the secondary grading.) 

Nalle has not sent a 16 that wasn't downgraded, and Ondra's only 16 is Terra Nova, another out-of-the-way problem that won't get much traffic, and therefore hasn't seen a second ascent. 

Nivel Egres · · New York, NY · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 130
Will Esposito wrote:

Recently I was compiling a list of V15+ problems and senders and realized that Nalle has never sent a 16. Yes, he sent Gioia, but its first grading, by Core, was 15 (it was Ondra who, as second, graded it 16; Nalle declined to affirm either the original or the secondary grading.) 

So you don't feel he's qualified to give the Burden of Dreams the grade that he gave? 

Jon Frisby · · Brooklyn, NY · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 100

Bundesliga sit is 15/16. 

Eric Carlos · · Chattanooga, TN · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 40

My one thought on this is that Nalle spent seven seasons, but he actually changed his beta in the 6th season, thus actually sending quickly after changing beta.  Does that affect the grade?

ViperScale . · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 235
Eric Carlos wrote:

My one thought on this is that Nalle spent seven seasons, but he actually changed his beta in the 6th season, thus actually sending quickly after changing beta.  Does that affect the grade?

I would say so after banging my head against a V1 I could not climb it (feeling like a V5 / V6) than realizing I was being retarded and climbed it properly and sent it easy.

s kf · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 0
Eric Carlos wrote:

My one thought on this is that Nalle spent seven seasons, but he actually changed his beta in the 6th season, thus actually sending quickly after changing beta.  Does that affect the grade?

The fact that he sent it soon after trying it with a different sequence shouldn't in itself change the grade. I also assume that he proposed V17 given the sequence he sent it with...

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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