Joshua Tree Life Flight from Conan's Corridor


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Michael Douglas · · Yucaipa, CA · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 40

On our way from split rocks to the main part of the park, we saw what I think was a life Life Flight/ pickoff/ rescue out of Conan's Corridor. Anyone know what happened?

Buddy Nielsen · · Flagstaff, AZ · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 15

I was there climbing next to the man that fell but I don't want to post anything yet. I'm not sure on the ethics and protocol of how and when to give details on accidents as I've only been climbing a year. I want to respect his family and friends and get their blessing and his before I give details or let them give their own accounts. I'm not sure, I'm super devestated to see someone suffer so much and I just got home so I haven't really processed any of it yet. He took a bad fall and was airlifted, I hope he will be ok.

Michael Douglas · · Yucaipa, CA · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 40
Buddy Nielsen wrote:I don't want to post anything yet. I'm not sure on the ethics and protocol of how and when to give details on accidents...
Wisdom... I hope he is well. My suspicions were correct that it was a climber. May you find insights as you process what you witnessed today. Talk to those close to you (possibly best with other climbers) and hold onto hope for the injured.
Benjamin Chapman · · Small Town, USA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 13,267

Good call, Buddy. Wishing the best for those involved.

Nathan Large · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 8

I just found this article posted on the incident. It doesn't offer too much detail on what happened; other than, that the man fell 30 ft and suffered serious injuries.
http://www.pe.com/articles/climbing-824334-serious-joshua.html

I hope he will be okay as well.

amockalypsenow · · San Diego · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 690

I don't personally believe its morbid to try to learn from other people's mistakes/misfortunes. This is why we have the AAC accidents in NA climbing book.

I saw the chopper today from an adjacent area and a member of my party was nearby jumbo rocks at the time, but not right next to the incident. They mentioned overhearing a medic say "anchor failure". I'm curious about what exactly happened.

Carla R · · San Jose, CA · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 110

I heard sirens while climbing at Split Rocks about then..

Sending good vibes to him and his family. Buddy, I hope you feel better.

Johnny Victor · · Joshua Tree · Joined May 2014 · Points: 0

https://www.facebook.com/josarorg/

This link will show you pictures of the rescue or search FB for Joshua Tree Search & Rescue

Buddy Nielsen · · Flagstaff, AZ · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 15

I agree that sharing the accident information is a must, however, I'm just not sure it's my place and the corrrect time just yet. We gave our accounts to the NPS investigator so there are detailed documentation of what happened from my perspective and all the other direct witnesses. I spoke with his partner before we all left and he shared with me the specific details of what occurred which I relayed to the NPS rangers. I also cleaned up the gear so I was able inspect and further clarify exactly what happened. So when the time is right a detailed and accurate account will be released. The victim is stable but in critical condition.

Paul Hutton · · Dirtbaggin' western US · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 701

I've fallen nearly 30 ft before. Straight onto my back on a rocky ledge. I had a tender heart for the scene I presented to my belayer, as well. Good luck brother.

Randy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2002 · Points: 1,521

My sincere wishes for a full recovery.

While there is sometimes something to be learned from deconstructing an accident, it is best to await a full report before opining on the Interweb.

Matt Himmelstein · · Orange, California · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 115
Buddy Nielsen wrote:I agree that sharing the accident information is a must, however, I'm just not sure it's my place and the correct time just yet.
As long as you are relaying specific, factual information that you observed, and not passing along speculation, conjecture, third party info, or personal information regarding the injured party, there shouldn't be any ethical dilemma.
JSH · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2007 · Points: 960

Buddy, take care of yourself. That's a hard thing to see and participate in. We can surely wait for details if you don't feel they're yours to share yet. That's really ok.

Crotch Robbins · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2003 · Points: 105

My thoughts are with the fallen climber, family, friends and responders.

There are very rarely any new modes of failure that we learn about, so chances are we can wait until an official account is ready.

Hobo Greg · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 115

The HV dirtbags are sending as much positive energy as possible towards the climber and his family.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 310
Crotch Robbins wrote:My thoughts are with the fallen climber, family, friends and responders. There are very rarely any new modes of failure that we learn about, so chances are we can wait until an official account is ready.
Best wishes to the fallen climber...

Buddy... if you saw what went down why be coy?

The "official investigation" .... will take some time and most likely be full of inaccuracies.

IMHO... nothing wrong with sharing what you saw.

that what the net is for.
Buddy Nielsen · · Flagstaff, AZ · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 15

Because I watched someone devasted and broken by a violent event. Watching someone suffer in a way I never have leads me to be more concerned with his possible recovery then sharing beta about someone's accident. Seeing a stranger unresponsive with blood pouring out of their skull makes me want to respect his friends and family above all else. He is still in critical condition and his prognosis at this point. Is unclear and very touch and go. I think it's in pretty poor taste to be detailing someone's accident while they are fighting for their life. Also, I wasn't his direct partner, I was climbing on the route next to them. I have the story of what happened from his belay partner and from what I experienced and saw but I want to speak with his partner before I go detailing anything further. This story can wait until we find out if he is going to survive.

Buddy Nielsen · · Flagstaff, AZ · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 15

The reason why I am posting on here is to moderate any inaccuracies from popping up and trying to deter second hand information from being shared. There were 7 people including the victim climbing in the area, only two people saw the actual accident, the victim and his partner, all others have second hand information including myself.

Buddy Nielsen · · Flagstaff, AZ · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 15

Also the internet is for porn and pictures of dogs :)

s.price · · PS,CO · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 1,348

I'm with Buddy on this. No reason to speculate or share info that cannot contribute to the situation.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 310

Well Buddy I sort of disagree....

A person died on "Spider Line" before and i found the information about the accident to be very informative. This was first hand information....

The Official Report made no mention of the real root cause of this persons unfortunate accident.

if you would like to know I will tell you.

but hey, i understand that your upset, stick around this sport long enuf and you will see the most god awful stuff this side of a battlefield.

take care.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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