quick review: Mad Rock Lifeguard

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tl;dr: It's a very good copy of the Grigri. My Grigri 2 now dwells in the gear closet.

The Lifeguard is a little bit lighter than a Grigri2, 156g vs 172g according to my kitchen scale. It's substantially smaller however, in a way pictures don't really convey. When I took it out of the box I couldn't help but laugh at how tiny it is. It's entirely metal though, no plastic parts at all, so it kinda "feels" heavier than the Grigri 2, because it's denser.

In terms of MSRP it's slightly cheaper than a Grigri 2 at $90 vs $100. Practically speaking though Petzl stuff goes on sale so often compared to Mad Rock it's more like $90 vs $80. I'm allergic to paying full price so I used a Campsaver coupon code to get it for $72.

But never mind all that, how does it work?

Mechanically it is absolutely a Grigri copy. The sideplates open the same way, the rope moves through in the same orientation, the cam pinches the rope in the same place, the lowering handles operate the same way, and so on, and so forth. The only practical difference I can detect is that, due to some combination of spring tension and cam geometry, it's markedly less prone to locking when paying out slack quickly. This depends on rope diameter, of course. I usually use it with my Trango 9.9, with which it works well. It also works well with my dry-treated Sterling 10.1, but a well-worn non-treated Sterling 10.1 gym rope makes it a bit more lock-happy. It belayed beautifully with an Edelweiss 9.5, but lowering friction was a bit scary. If it does lock when you don't want it to, it will typically unlock the instant tension comes off the rope. So if your partner, when short-roped, simply holds tension on the rope waiting for you to push the Grigri cam open, you may have a bad time, as the cam on the Lifeguard is smaller and a bit harder to find blindly with your thumb. If, on the other hand, your partner responds to being short-roped by giving a bit of slack back to you, the Lifeguard will unlock without direct intervention and you can feed slack normally.

The marketing fluff says you use it exactly like a tube device, with no need to learn any special technique. I'm going to rate that as "nonsense" on the truth-o-meter because even though it's less prone to locking up than a Grigri 2, it does function exactly like that device, and will at some point lock up when you don't want it to, so you need to learn the technique anyway. If you're already proficient with a Grigri you will be just fine. If you've never used a device like this before you'll need a bit of practice.

Lowering, compared to a Grigri 2, is kinda better but kinda worse. The lever is short, narrow, and doesn't open to as extreme an angle as the handle on the Grigri 2, so some users will find it uncomfortable. I don't mind it though, and find overall it gives subjectively better control than the Grigri 2. It is compatible with the Petzl Freino, if you happen to have one of those.

For top-rope belay it's perfectly fine. The Grigri 1 is still better for TR belay on stiff, fat gym ropes.

One quick note on carabiner compatibility: I recommend NOT using the Lifeguard with the DMM Rhino. The "horn" on the Rhino, which effectively prevents the Grigri 2 from rotating onto the spine of the biner, fits into the Lifeguard's slightly larger biner connection hole, and the Lifeguard can get stuck on it. This isn't just theoretical, it actually happened to me during normal use. Another time the Lifeguard rotated onto the nose side of the Rhino. It wasn't stuck exactly, but it stayed there when loaded.

So basically it's a slightly improved Grigri 2. I like it.

interesting.

looks like the amount of camming action is significantly less than a grigri (in other words, the amount that the cam moves when locked) -- am I correct?

I can't tell if having the rope exposed on the bottom is a good idea or not-- seems like your shirt could get pulled in?

best,
matt

I've been using one for a few months now and am quite happy with it. I find it smoother to pay out slack than my previous devices (grigri and megajul), it locks well every time and lowering is pretty typical. The price/weight and honestly uniqueness are also great selling points. I also think somebody with smaller hands who doesn't find a grigri easy to use might have an easier time belaying with this due to the difference in size.

I've had the same experience with mine. Sweet size, solid feel, and gotta love the red color. However, one thing that is not mentioned here that I believe should is an aspect of lowering with the lifeguard. I have found that it is half a new-user issue, but the other half a usability issue. The lowering is completely functional and safe, however when compared to the lowering ability of the grigri, it falls a bit short. The grigri is undoubtedly smoother when lowering, while the lifeguard is more stop-and-go. No matter the size/wear of the rope, you have to work a bit harder to lower the climber at a consistent/comfortable rate. I have figured out the right brake hand tension and position, but I still have the occasional moment where a few feet slide out a little faster then was intended.

Not to make this post useless, but despite this I still use and prefer the lifeguard >.<

Reviving an old post to see if people are having issues with newer lifeguards. I love mine, it pays out really smoothly without having to touch the device itself, and locks up in an instant when necessary. The lowering is a little touchy but I'll take the trade off for the size, tough build, and utility.

Over the last couple years two partners have bought lifeguards after using mine. Both have much tighter (edit: based on comments below likely looser) springs - it makes lowering smoother at the sacrifice of needing to hold the device open to pay out smoothly. Did I just get lucky with my lifeguard or do they take some breaking in? I don't remember any issues at the time but was new to ABDs so may have chalked up problems to my inexperience.

I have one — for lowering, I use combination of braking strand angle and lifting the lever. I do think it takes some time to get used to one’s own device and rope widths. 

The newer Lifeguard was supposedly updated with a softer spring tension which makes it harder to feed slack without holding the cam down. Breaking in is not a factor. All of these types of devices are pretty sensitive to rope diameter, stiffness and sheath wear. The old Lifeguard is my favorite out of Grigri 1, Grigri 2, Beal Birdie because of the stiffer spring and easier feeding of rope while lead belaying.