Beat up body parts


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Old lady H · · Boise, Idaho · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 265

I have arthritis in my knees, which sucks. At this point, it's not too bad, and I'm aiming to keep it together as long as possible.

I realize many of you also have parts that are just never going to get better. Unlike an injury, that you rest so it can heal, how hard do you push the uncooperative bits? As hard as you can stand? Do you worry at all about injuring something that's choss anyway?

And, outside of sucking down ibuprofen type stuff, which I am trying to minimize for as long as possible, what's helped you keep going?

Thanks in advance for your help and encouragement! Best to all, Helen

SinRopa · · parts unknown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 50

Turmeric Curcumin
Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM
PRP therapy for the stuff you think is never going to get better

KevinCO · · Loveland, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 60

Avoid NSAIDS which interfere with healing and are hard on your kidneys.

What SinRopa said, and also Bromelain, which if taken on an empty stomach is an effective anti-inflammatory.

CMO works better than Glucosamine. I like Jarrow's 'True CMO'. Take it on an empty stomach with a Vit C capsule (use whole food C, instead of synthetic, such as Garden of Living brand). CMO lubricates and rebuilds cartilage.

For ligaments and tendons, use Collagen Type 1 & 3. Mix 1 scoop with water, vit c, 2 bromelain capsules (opened), and 1T Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. Take on an empty stomach and wait 1-2 hours before eating. Collagen 1 & 3 is the building blocks for ligaments and tendons and will make bones stronger.

Go gluten and dairy free to heal leaky gut which can cause your immune system to attack your joints. Avoid corn and cut way down on refined carbs and sugar which are very pro-inflammatory.

Bicycling with good form and a properly fitted bike is awesome for knee rehab.

Maintain your Vit D levels at the upper range. Take K2 with D3 supplements.

A lot of aging can be a choice!

Dharma Bum · · Glen Haven, Co · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 585

Hot tub or heating pad speeds recovery too. Yoga and strength training work wonders.

Srah H · · Leadville, CO · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 0

I make an anti-inflammatory smoothie every day when I get back from running or climbing:
Banana
Frozen blueberries
Almond milk
Raw kale
Beet powder (or cooked beets)
Turmeric
Ginger
Cinnamon
Sometimes matcha powder
Chlorella

I gave up sugar, flour, and dairy because they're inflammatory (it's personal what's inflammatory to your system)

I do a lot of yoga in general, and yin specifically because it lubricates and strengthens the connective tissue in my joints.

Every night I roll out my legs, back, and shoulders with foam a roller or 2 tennis balls in a sock, then I massages my thighs and calves when I get in bed because relieving muscle tension helps keep tension off my knees and ankles.

Hot epsom salt baths

I also get acupuncture at least twice a month, even when I'm not injured just to keep things working. If you can afford it, professional massage is amazing for your joints (a lot of people don't realize tight muscles exacerbate any CT problems in their joints).

Just some ideas that work for me!

mbk · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 0

The exercises in Treat Your Own Knee Arthritis seem to be helping me quite a bit.

T Roper · · DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 860
Old lady H wrote: what's helped you keep going? Thanks in advance for your help and encouragement! Best to all, Helen
Whats helped me is to keep going, never stop moving. Sore from climbing? Go for a hike/bike or walk. No rest days allowed after 40. Stay loose any way possible and keep moving. This post should be asking people over the age of 40 to be more specific.
BigFeet · · Texas · Joined May 2014 · Points: 380
T Roper wrote: Whats helped me is to keep going, never stop moving. Sore from climbing? Go for a hike/bike or walk. No rest days allowed after 40. Stay loose any way possible and keep moving. This post should be asking people over the age of 40 to be more specific.
Working on 43 here. I eat well and sleep well. No taking anything other than Ibuprofen here and there.

Trivia answer: There is nothing in your body, other than your teeth, that is older than ten years. That said...

Back aches some days from a dirt bike wreck when younger. Threw out my right arm playing my last year of baseball in high school - still bothers me. Fell on a perfect finger/knuckle jam and my left bird will forever be crooked. There are too many stitches and things that have been broken to remember.

I agree with Roper, keep moving and going. Time is running out much quicker than when I was 20.

I plan on sliding into the grave with whiskey in one hand, a smoke in the other while begging if I can take another ride.
Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25

turmeric. try it.

jeep gaskin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 10

chronic ailments just get more chronic. psycho cures eventually become frivolous, least they did for me. made me feel stupid for buying in.
something hurts all the time. old injuries come back to visit, seemingly from nowhere. then they go away and some other old injury stops by. i figure if various elastic wraps, tape and advil will fix me i'm not really hurt. on that occasional golden day i still bang out a pitch of 5.11, then spend a week recovering. what are you going to do? gravity doesn't play from senior tees. quit? hell no.

Bill Shubert · · Lexington, MA · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 55

My mother had the same problem. She loves to walk and bike, but her knee arthritis finally made it too painful. She got a partial knee replacement just a month ago, and it has gone unbelievably well. Minimal pain (she never even took her pain meds), she walked out of the hospital the day after the surgery, in a week she was climbing stairs, and now she's up to 45 minute walks with no problems. She and her doctors expect that soon she'll be as good on her new knee as she ever was on her original one.

Obviously you don't do this until you have to, but if your knee stops you from doing stuff you like, consider it.

Michael Schneider · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 735

Hey babe, if the Shoe fits. . . . .

jeep gaskin wrote:chronic ailments just get more chronic. psycho cures eventually become frivolous, least they did for me. made me feel stupid for buying in. something hurts all the time. old injuries come back to visit, seemingly from nowhere. then they go away and some other old injury stops by. i figure if various elastic wraps, tape and advil will fix me i'm not really hurt. on that occasional golden day i still bang out a pitch of 5.11, then spend a week recovering. what are you going to do? gravity doesn't play from senior tees. quit? hell no.
As this shoe fits me to a tee I'll only add my toes are blown my ankles more so
Then knees hips and back go weakly forward into the coming gloom.
After fifty years of climbing and looking down almost the same age as the
Hottie who now professes honesty but real for reals is a player .
I'm not able to move much after a four day climbing trip .
I've only been at this since 5- or 6 so I'm not complaining
Or climbing without hanging on much harder than ...
Who knows I only climb on routes that I've cleaned

ah! I am so thankful to have had the freedom to have followed my bliss!

Edit,
You can always tell when I've been climbing by the way I use up my posting limit.
Fully addicted to all things well almost all things
Climbing related,
Kinda a boring mono- demensional personality though
YMMV...

Kirby!
Bill! Ding ding ding!,
Hehahah! Spring chicken,
broke down, and put back together,
that list of injuries you once shared was impressive!
but good on you for Gettin' after it!
V V V V V
Bill Kirby · · Baltimore Maryland · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

I turned 40 in September. A little after my last birthday I realized that it's going to get harder to do fun stuff outdoors if I don't stay in shape in drop weight. I can't just get off the couch and go on a week climbing or biking trip. I figure my pains won't be as bad if I'm not carrying extra weight around and every muscle in my body is strong. I would recommend that for beat up body parts.

I disagree with no rest days. Not saying it's wrong just doesn't work for me. If I go too strong for too long I injure myself. It's hard to take a day to recover when I see results. I got pumped since I lost eight pounds in two weeks. I went to a spin class last night with some friends. This morning I got knee pain. It feels like a inflamed Pateller tendon but comes and goes. My foot has pins and needles so I think it's to do with my back. Any ways sometimes you gotta rest.

Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25
Bill Kirby wrote:I turned 40 in September.
You old fucker... haha
Tradster · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 0

63 and still at it. CMO, Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM, and stay moving.

I second biking for the knees; great for range of motion with very little stress. Although I mountain bike a lot, which is rougher but still keeps things functioning well.

When you stop moving at my age, you just seize up. Can't have that.

Lee Durbetaki · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 5

If a warmup makes it feel better, keep going. If a warmup makes it feel worse, stop.

Knee wraps (the kind weightlifters use) can provide some light compression and heat retention, both of which help a creaky knee. You will probably have to experiment with how tight you wear them.

Bill Kirby · · Baltimore Maryland · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
Seth Jones wrote: You old fucker... haha
I'm a 140 in gangbanger years :)
Tradster · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 0

Another great exercise for sore knees is swimming. Stretching in a pool is good...body has nice support from all that water. Little stress on the knees when in the pool.

Jake Jones · · Richmond, VA · Joined Jul 2011 · Points: 1,420

I'm 41. I have advancing osteoarthritis in my fingers, both hands. I've had knee surgery. My joints pop and creak and I'm almost constantly sore if I work hard, which I do consistently. I try to manage with turmeric, ice, and glucosamine, etc. When I go on trips, I take Vitamin I for best performance and least pain. I climb at an OK level, and I'm still progressing and getting stronger. Hopefully I can still say that in a decade.

Brandon.Phillips · · Alabama · Joined May 2011 · Points: 55

Tumeric
Ice Packs
Training- especially light weight, low impact exercises to strengthen connective tissue

kenr · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 10,116
Tradster wrote:I second biking for the knees; great for range of motion with very little stress.
Oddly a recent idea is that bicycling does not provide enough stress on knees and ankles.
Theory is that joint tissue needs the unique stimulation of impact stress (at the right level) for best maintenance.

. (and the "wear and tear" theory of osteoarthritis has been pretty well debunked).

Ken
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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