Socks for down to -30C/-22F (worse case)?


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WalkingTheCamera · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 5

Looking for one or two socks to create a not too thick layer for not too roomy shoes.

Up to 6000 meters and in very extreme cases down to temperatures mentioned in the title.

I went for:


What would you have opted for in combination with a shoe like this?
Asolo shoes

This is for a friend who does not have access to internet orders or local shops with authentic gear and wear.
Max Forbes · · Vermont & Colorado · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 114

Love the darn tough OTC mountaineering socks. No expierence with others mentioned. In my expierence, very heavy socks can restrict circulation by taking up significantly more space in the boot (compared to thin) socks, and therefore cause your feet to be colder. If your going to use those boots, make sure you have enough room.

RockinOut · · NY, NY · Joined May 2010 · Points: 100

I busted out my REI expedition weight Merino wool socks doing the presidential traverse. It was -77F on Washington, and I kept my toes.

Chris C. · · Seattle, WA · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 246

Those don't look like 6000m boots at all. Socks aren't meant to provide warmth, they are meant to provide protection against friction. Multiple days in -30C with those boots sounds like frostbite.

WalkingTheCamera · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 5
chrisccc wrote:Those don't look like 6000m boots at all. Socks aren't meant to provide warmth, they are meant to provide protection against friction. Multiple days in -30C with those boots sounds like frostbite.
chrisccc: To get other shoes, it's better to wait for my friend/relative to come visit. I don't want to send shoes that have not been tried on. In the meantime, I'm sending socks, and hoping the expeditions are limited to multiple hours.

Max Forbes: That's great to know that you had a good experience with them! Cheers for that!


RockinOut
: REI doesn't seem to exist in the EU-market so that won't be an option unless I go for custom fees and so on.
timt · · Wheat Ridge, CO · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 50

My feet run very cold. These are by far the warmest I've tried, despite being low volume. They look goofy but are surprisingly comfortable. The other bonus is you don't soak the boot from the inside & at those temps unlikely to wet from outside, so boots stay dry & warm.

http://www.rbhdesigns.com/category/170/footwear.htm

patto · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 25

The biggest problem that cause cold feet is poor circulation or a core core temp, not insufficient insulation. Anything that could reduce the blood circulation in your feet is trouble. Overly thick socks included.

(Though I'm probably lucky. I've never experienced cold feet even in -20C temps....)

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 2,755

Wear the warmest pants you can. Insulated gaiters, supergaiters or even overbootys. The idea is to keep the blood warm on its journey to the toes.

Scot Hastings · · Las Vegas · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 35

As others have mentioned, heavier socks only add warmth if you have the room for them. Too much sock will cut off circulation and make your feet colder.

And yeah, those don't look like 6000m boots. Tell your friend to be careful.

Bill Kirby · · Baltimore Maryland · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

I have Scarpa Phantom 6000s and I wear ski liners with them. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I read that thick socks aren't necessary when wearing a double boot?

Mark Ra · · Frange, CO · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65

Have you looked at a vapor barrier liner? People use all sorts of things, oven bags, plastic bags, etc... They are pretty thin and can trap a lot of heat.

Luc-514 · · Montreal, Quebec · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,903
Mark Ra wrote:Have you looked at a vapor barrier liner? People use all sorts of things, oven bags, plastic bags, etc... They are pretty thin and can trap a lot of heat.
They don't trap heat, they trap moisture from getting into the insulation of your boots. Very useful for multi-day sub zero trips where you won't be able to dry the inside of your boots/liners/socks.

Takes getting used too, also good to bring along multiple thin liner socks to wear inside the VBL.

Some people also suggest using antiperspirant on your feet.
Jon Hemlock · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 5

Hi,

-30C/-22F is very cold. You will need more than socks in that environment.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 205

Vapor barrier and a single super thick sock.

Allen Sanderson · · Oootah · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,135

If I want a VBL sock I wear those made by Gator: gator-sports.com/shop/produ...

For the outer sock I wear a heavy Dachstein sock: sweaterchalet.com/quality-w...

I size my books for this combo plus a superset insole.

Ryan Hamilton · · Orem · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 20

I tried out Lorpen's Inferno Expedition socks toward the end of last season. I tend to get very cold feet. They are different than other socks and they seemed to work great, though it never got REALLY cold during the days that I used them.

http://www.lorpennorthamerica.com/mens/mens-polartec

I've also heard great things about Sealskinz socks, but haven't had a chance to check those out yet.

Luc-514 · · Montreal, Quebec · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,903

Little tip, carry along a piece of cheep foam mattress to stand on when you stop moving, great help when your boots aren't warm enough.

Bring a couple pairs of stick-on chemical toe warmer pads as a backup (check the expiry date).

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 205
Allen Sanderson wrote:If I want a VBL sock I wear those made by Gator: gator-sports.com/shop/produ... For the outer sock I wear a heavy Dachstein sock: sweaterchalet.com/quality-w... I size my books for this combo plus a superset insole.
Stay well away from gator socks my anti virus flagged it for trying to give me a trojan.
WalkingTheCamera · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 5
Ryan Hamilton wrote:I tried out Lorpen's Inferno Expedition socks toward the end of last season. I tend to get very cold feet. They are different than other socks and they seemed to work great, though it never got REALLY cold during the days that I used them. lorpennorthamerica.com/mens... I've also heard great things about Sealskinz socks, but haven't had a chance to check those out yet.
Hi all!

I'm back with an update...

First of all thank you kindly for the time you dedicated towards answering my question. But due to the European unavailability of most of the products mentioned, I decided on the socks I mentioned in the original post, as well as Ryan Hamilton's recommendation: Lorpen's T3+ Inferno Expedition Polartec.

My friend used the Lorpen's on a day expedition to a 4000 meter mountain with the earlier pictured three season Asolo shoes.

Conditions: -18 and 70km/h winds. He kept his toes with a bit of pain.

I'm hoping to improve his shoes before something goes wrong. But the Lorpen's received thumbs up on day 1. Not sure what liners he used.
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