WARNING! Over and Out/Over the Hill Eldo-Rincon... death block needs to be trundled.


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mountainhick · Oct 14, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
I don't know who to report this to, but it needs to be taken care of.

There is a big loose death block in the gully left of the Over the hill anchor below the alcove at the base of Over the Hill's second pitch. This thing shifted when I touched it today and it obviously is loose and ready to go/needs to be trundled. It is the spire like rock in the middle, left of the tree and belay for Over the hill and in precarious position and stability. If this hits someone at the base when it goes it will kill them.

dameeser · Oct 14, 2016 · denver · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 196
Thanks,

send an email to The Action Committee for Eldorado (aceeldo@googlegroups.com) so they can be informed. They might want to get some more information from you.

Jon Sinclair · Oct 14, 2016 · Lafayette, CO · Joined Feb 2007 · Points: 10
Everything in that alcove is loose. There's nothing new about that. Anyone at that anchor or moving up to the base of the second pitch has to be super-careful and if you're on the ground or climbing below a party at that anchor... be very wary.

Patrik · Oct 14, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 30
Jon Sinclair wrote:...There's nothing new about that. ...
This one is actually new. It has shifted significantly over the past two weeks and is now READY to go. Someone has grabbed this thing and wiggled it loose. Please, everyone: do NOT bring any beginners (or generally careless people) up on this ledge before this is taken care of. It is in the middle of the "hikers" path topping out on Emerald City/Over and Out going towards the common belay spot in the corner.

mountainhick · Oct 14, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
dameeser wrote:Thanks, send an email to The Action Committee for Eldorado (aceeldo@googlegroups.com) so they can be informed. They might want to get some more information from you.
Done, thanks Matt.

mountainhick · Oct 14, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
Jon Sinclair wrote:Everything in that alcove is loose. There's nothing new about that. Anyone at that anchor or moving up to the base of the second pitch has to be super-careful and if you're on the ground or climbing below a party at that anchor... be very wary.
While your general point to be wary is correct and well taken, your assumption that it is the same as it ever was is erroneous.

Brendan Armesy · Oct 14, 2016 · Fort Collins CO · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 5
If it is safe when this takes place I wouldn't mind seeing a video of such a rock being trundled.

mountainhick · Oct 19, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
Just a friendly bump due to uncertainty: I sent two emails to the ace address posted by Matt. Have had no reply so I don't know whether it's on anyone's radar who would take care of it.

Beware up there.

Mike McHugh · Oct 20, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 70
It looks like I'll be up there with Matt & Mike S tomorrow. Trundling that block would damage a lot of brand new stone stairs - sounds like a perfect candidate to split and lower.

mountainhick · Oct 20, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
Thanks Mike, Glad to hear.

The rock is big but not gigantic. Might be able to sling and lower without splitting it.

Tony B · Oct 20, 2016 · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 21,730
Mike McHugh wrote:It looks like I'll be up there with Matt & Mike S tomorrow. Trundling that block would damage a lot of brand new stone stairs - sounds like a perfect candidate to split and lower.
I just want to toss it out there for folks who get down and out about land managers and such...
Uhm... think this over and about how well taken care of we are by this park and its staff.

Thanks Mike, and thank the park on our behalf for having you there!

mike schlauch · Oct 22, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2004 · Points: 195
We went up on Friday afternoon and moved a large loose block away from the edge and back toward the flat spot below p2 of OTH. There are many loose blocks on that ledge but this one was particularly precarious. Be careful in that area and definitely think twice about hanging out on the ground when there is a party up on that ledge.

mountainhick · Oct 22, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
Up instead of down, good solution!

Thanks for taking care of it!

Mike McHugh · Oct 22, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 70

mountainhick · Oct 23, 2016 · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 60
OK, I deleted the warning condition reports on those routes in the route guide.

Thanks again guys.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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