Best Bi Pattern Dry Treated 70M rope around 9.8


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Zach Joing · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2011 · Points: 0

I'm Looking for a new 70 m. Would like to stick with dry treated rope. Bi Pattern a must. Thinking right around the 9.8 range. Looking for suggestions.

ColinW · · San Diego, CA · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 10

Hey zach, I've have nothing but great things to say about Maxim 70m ropes. I have this one. It's rugged and hasn't caused any problems for me. Maxim dry 70m 9.9

But, you can look here also. Maxim ropes

John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,500

Sterling Velocity.

Dave Holliday · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2003 · Points: 1,156

+1 for Sterling Velocity. Although it's a little thinner, the Mammut Infinity is a mighty fine rope.

J.Roatch · · Leavenworth, WA · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 0

Also interested in this. In the 9.2-9.8 range. Following.

Scot Hastings · · Las Vegas · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 5

It's a little smaller than what you're looking for (9.5), but I've had two Mammut Infinity ropes (including one 70m/bi-color) and they've both been amazing.

cmqr9001 Black · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 0

I have a double dry Mammut infinity 9.5 70m bi-pattern and it's pretty nice. It feels a bit stiffer and less supple than some other ropes I've handled in the same range but I guess the benefit is increased abrasion resistance from the coating on the fibers. Great rope, it just feels a tad stiff to me.

Systematic · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 271
ColinW wrote:Hey zach, I've have nothing but great things to say about Maxim 70m ropes. I have this one. It's rugged and hasn't caused any problems for me. Maxim dry 70m 9.9 But, you can look here also. Maxim ropes
I have this rope. With the 20% REI coupon, it was very affordable for a bi-pattern, dry, 70m. When new, it handled really well. After about a season and a half, the sheath is really fuzzy and it feeds poorly. At 66g/m it's also pretty heavy. It doesn't seem to have the durability to match the high weight.

The patterns are significantly different so you can easily tell which end you're on and where the middle is (thought the point at which the pattern changes is about 4-5' away from the middle).
Billcoe · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 630

I too have the Maxim 9.8mm bi pattern. My boy bought it for me cause he knows how cheap I am and would never purchase such a nice thing for myself. Then when he found me hoarding it in the basement insisted I get it out and use it. At one ++ year it has now seen craploads of miles and pitches (very little toproping as I have 3 top rope specific 11mms). It's been to Red Rocks, Toulemne, Yosemite and put up some dangerous/sharp loose rocks/new routes here locally. I've maybe washed it 4 times. It's been aid climbing just last weekend and then I loaned it to a couple buddies so they could aid climb with it and we split. I'd forgotten that I now need to get it back. Treated it to all kinds of other rude stuff and it's holding up fairly well for all that. I'd give it 2 thumbs up as a general purpose rope. I have a Beal 9.1 Joker I prefer for long trad routes I'll add, but if I only bought one rope, it wouldn't be the Beal.

Morgan Patterson · · CT · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,332

Had great expeirence with Maxim ropes.. Sterling, esp the velocity, no so much

John Ryan · · Poncha Springs, CO · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 150

I've owned many Maxim ropes over the years. The glider ropes I've had, while having amazing handling properties, just don't last due to sheath damage. Maxim touts their tight weave sheath as increasing abrasion resistance but in reality this weave results in greater sheath damage. Think of trying to cut a rope held taut vs. cutting a non taut rope.

Jay Eggleston · · Denver · Joined Feb 2003 · Points: 14,129

MAMMUT

Morgan Patterson · · CT · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,332

Edelweiss Element II ARC is another option - I like mine but others have had issues.

Optimistic · · New Paltz · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 282

I'm on my second Mammut Infinity 9.5 bipattern and very happy with it. The 70 only seems to come in blue right now and I'd seen some online grumbling about the pattern transition being hard to see but we're not finding that at all. I did notice that the dry coating was pretty damned slick for the first 10 or 15 pitches, making me really want a backup on rappel. But that has settled down and I think it's a great rope. The previous one lasted through I think 4 years of pretty frequent use.

AlpineAlison · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 0

For a 70 m, dry (core + sheath), single rope bipattern the options are:

Maxim 9.1 Airliner
Mammut 9.5 Infinity
Blue Water 9.7 Lighting Pro
Maxim 9.5 Pinnacle
Mammut 9.8 Eternity

For bicolor (which can sometimes feel almost the same as bipattern) the options are:

Blue Water 9.1 Icon
Sterling 9.2 Evolution
Mammut 9.2 Revelation
Sterling 9.4 Fusion Ion R
Sterling 9.5 Evolution Helix
Edelrid 9.7 Anniversary Pro

  • I included some skinnier options since others posted about different sizes too

Pretty much all of those options have rave reviews around too. So it'll probably be more interesting to compare price with the kinda-upcoming holiday sales.

(I found those options via weighmyrack.com/rope and it took longer to write up the options than narrow down the search).
Zach Holt · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 50

Always loved my Mammut ropes, but just got the Maxim pinnacle and am very impressed with it!

JK- · · SLC · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 13
Morgan Patterson wrote:Edelweiss Element II ARC is another option - I like mine but others have had issues.
I'm on my third Element and love it. Starts out a bit stiff, but after a dozen or so climbs is great.

But... The difference between the 9.8 the OP is looking for and the 10.2 of the element is pretty noticeable.
Bill Kirby · · Baltimore Maryland · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 40

The Bluewater lighting has bi pattern's that easy to identify. A friend of mine has one and we've fallen on it a bunch. We both weigh a little over 230 so...

I've had good times with my Sterling but it's a 10.2

JK- · · SLC · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 13
Bill Kirby wrote:The Bluewater lighting has bi pattern's that easy to identify. A friend of mine has one and we've fallen on it a bunch. We both weigh a little over 230 so... I've had good times with my Sterling but it's a 10.2
I need to climb with you and your friends instead of my tiny little squirt friends...
Bill Kirby · · Baltimore Maryland · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 40
JK- wrote: I need to climb with you and your friends instead of my tiny little squirt friends...
Come on.. Your friends can't be that bad. Little squirt friends give soft catches. Sometimes I find them curled in a ball up against the wall holding the brake strand. That's friendship.
JK- · · SLC · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 13
Bill Kirby wrote: Come on.. Your friends can't be that bad. Little squirt friends give soft catches. Sometimes I find them curled in a ball up against the wall holding the brake strand. That's friendship.
None of my regular climbing partners could give me anything but a soft catch if they wanted to. I'm literally double one of them.

Lots of fun to climb with. Great people. Just tiny people.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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