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Trying to find some old guides, if you have any that you would be willing to sell I'd be happy to buy them from you. RED RIVER GORGE CLIMBER'S GUIDE By Frank Becker and Diane Blazy (1975) RAWK! A CLIMBER'S GUIDE TO THE RED RIVER GORGE By Ed Benjamin and Ed Pearsall (1978) CLIMBERS GUIDE TO THE RED RIVER GORGE By Ed Pearsall (1980) STONES OF YEARS III By R. Grant Stephens (1993) CLIMBERS GUIDE TO PILOT ROCK By Geoff Irons (1979)