Leaning to Climb Tradtionally Indoors
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Do you know someone who has been wanting to learn trad.. |
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I wanted to see how silly this would be, but my virus checky thingy says your site is unsafe...oh well. |
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This should be a treat |
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Dustin Stotser wrote:I wanted to see how silly this would be, but my virus checky thingy says your site is unsafe...oh well.indigogo gets flagged as unsafe? strange. It's just a bolt-on crack that lets you place and fall on cams in the gym. Strangely you have to contribute $5,000 to get a single working device, which (if indicative of the final price point) seems a bit excessive. I mean honestly you could just make a non-load bearing version and skip the UIAA (repeatedly referred to as the UAII on the website) and get 90% of the instructional benefits for 10% of the cost. |
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climbing friend, |
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I'm guessing EMacrame is involved somehow. |
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Aleks Zebastian wrote:climbing friend, No.+1 |
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It looks feasible. |
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Aleks Zebastian wrote:climbing friend, No.LOL +1 |
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Yea... Not a chance. You'd be better off just building the cam placing part cheap and just have gyms bolt it on just above their existing draws, and charge like $20 instead. It's backed up anyway so why have it rated!!!? Ridiculous IMO |
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Any trickiness involved in placing cams is not going do be demonstrable with a flat-sided, parallel(exact) placement. There need to be flares, grooves, and bumps etc.(real rock) to deal with the intricacies of placing a cam. |
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This is a solution in need of a problem if ever I've seen one... |
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St00000000000000000000000000pid. |
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This would actually be great to have in gyms... Really get new trad belayers to see what happens when you have the rope too tight, leader falls, cam rotates during fall and rips out of perfect placement from belayer error. |
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Most of this has been said already, but here are the main issues I see: |
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Medic741 wrote:This would actually be great to have in gyms... Really get new trad belayers to see what happens when you have the rope too tight, leader falls, cam rotates during fall and rips out of perfect placement from belayer error. Plus the gym could start selling cams to replace the ones you destroy for no good reason doing this. Edit: It would be helpful to have one of these in my gym in all seriousness to get new read leaders comfortable with the fact that their gear works.Gear can rip out due to belayer error? All these years I thought it was my mistake. I'm gonna contact some of my old partners and tell them they owe me some beer... |
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I would imagine he could design flaring cracks, bottoming cracks, wobbly cracks, etc. But advertising it with just parallel cracks seems like a poor idea. |
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I just vomited. |
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Can't comment on this particular design, but when I took my trad climbing class (gasp!) I really enjoyed placing gear on artificial wall made from boulders - think retaining wall around 8ft high. It had a huge variety of cracks, pockets, and what nots. If one wanted to have an almost real life experience, they could hang off the wall and do one handed placements. |
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Hilton Bennett wrote:...and protect our natural climbing areas from over bolting. igg.me/at/NativeHeightsClim…Who bolts cracks? |
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neat idea, but id rather pay a stone mason to come in and lay up a 30ft tall {or whatever} stone column with features built in to put gear into it ..... |