Backing up the Cinch


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Sam Stephens · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 740

Since we all know the cinch is prone to failure at the worst time, I found an awesome way to back it up. What do you think? Super duper safe right?

Cinch back up

Gregger Man · · Broomfield, CO · Joined Aug 2004 · Points: 576

'Slack'
'...um'
'SLACK!'
'...'
'I SAID SLACK!! NOW!'
'...'
'FALLING!'

'Ok. Just lower me.'
'hmm...give me a minute'

Pavel Burov · · Russia · Joined May 2013 · Points: 25

Strongly suggest to add a munter mule. 'cause there's no such a thing as too much safety.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0

You forgot that for 100% safety there needs to be several Purcell prusiks in the system somewhere.

Matt Carroll · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 5

Eric is going to be so psyched about this redundency

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
Matt Carroll wrote:Eric is going to be so psyched about this redundency
He'll be psyched but never actually use it since he doesn't actually climb.
Firestone · · California · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 449
Marc801 wrote:You forgot that for 100% safety there needs to be several Purcell prusiks in the system somewhere.
Alternatively you could just throw a few clove hitches on lockers and attach them all to your forward most gear loop for easy access.
Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
Firestone wrote: Alternatively you could just throw a few clove hitches on lockers and attach them all to your forward most gear loop for easy access.
But the Purcell's would reduce the impact force by 0.1kN - obviously that's much safer.
Chad Miller · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 0

Why not just use a really burly belayer with lots of neck meat?

Mark E Dixon · · Sprezzatura, Someday · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 234

Shouldn't the belayer be wearing three separate harnesses, one for each device?

Or maybe it would be more dynamic if he extended each device with a double tether?

Or could you just use the EMacrame clove hitch/rap ring/three point system?

Nick Drake · · Newcastle, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 438
Mark E Dixon wrote:Shouldn't the belayer be wearing three separate harnesses, one for each device?
I prefer to climb with quad ropes and four belayers.
BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 5

Lulz ... this whole thread is close to violating RULE #1 ;)

T Roper · · DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 730

Folks, its all about safety. Do you even practice safety? I'm out being safe right now, when I get back from being safe I'll post more about safety. I'n the meantime I suggest reading every piece of literature front to back(google will translate the languages for you) that Petzl has ever written if you really want to be safe.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
T Roper wrote:I'n the meantime I suggest reading every piece of literature front to back(google will translate the languages for you) that Petzl has ever written if you really want to be safe.
Dude! You forgot the most important bit of advice: take a class in advanced macrame!
Greg D · · Here · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 511

I prefer the Umpa 1 for the most reliable backup. Compatible with all belay devices.

Umpa !

Steve Williams · · Denver, CO · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 0

Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error.
Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.

T Roper · · DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 730

Since its a regional norm around here, maybe we could get the government to step in and ban unsafe belaying. That should help.

Jake Jones · · Richmond, VA · Joined Jul 2011 · Points: 748

There is no backing up that death machine. It's so dangerous that any backup measures are instantly voided.

Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,240
Marc801 wrote:You forgot that for 100% safety there needs to be several Purcell prusiks in the system somewhere.
What about the Rosco P. Coltrane prusik?
Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
Steve Williams wrote:Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error. Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.
Wait.
Are you trying to interject a serious reply in this particular thread?
What is wrong with you?
BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 5
Steve Williams wrote:Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error. Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.
don't BE that guy
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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