Tips to climb into the ages and toe nail fungus.


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stoneforest · Jul 16, 2016 · Burlington, Vermont · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 0
Just looking for wisdom esp with feet. I want to climb forever but 20yrs of not respecting my body is catching up.

What I have learned
Don't where approach shoes unless you need to. A big toe box shoe keeps your toes healthier. Don't let toe nail fungus get out of control. How do I get rid of this.

Marc801 C · Jul 16, 2016 · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
stoneforest wrote:Don't let toe nail fungus get out of control. How do I get rid of this.
You will need to see a doctor. The only things that really work require a prescription or surgery. The OTC stuff and home remedies are basically worthless.

Allen Sanderson · Jul 16, 2016 · Oootah · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,115
Marc801 wrote: You will need to see a doctor. The only things that really work require a prescription or surgery. The OTC stuff and home remedies are basically worthless.
And even then the Rx is only something like 50%-70% effective and can be hard on one's liver.

Finn the Human · Jul 16, 2016 · The Land of Ooo · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 3
My understanding with toe fungus is that once you have it you can't get rid of it, but you can manage the symptoms using meds. Could be wrong though.

Marc801 C · Jul 16, 2016 · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
Finn the Human wrote:My understanding with toe fungus is that once you have it you can't get rid of it, but you can manage the symptoms using meds. Could be wrong though.
Perhaps, but with non-trivial side effects.
What does work is permanent removal of the nail - including the portion that grows new nail.

Brian in SLC · Jul 16, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2003 · Points: 12,590
stoneforest wrote:A big toe box shoe keeps your toes healthier. Don't let toe nail fungus get out of control. How do I get rid of this.
Tight climbing shoes, ice climbing boots...anything that constantly damages your nail beds will make either getting rid of toe nail fungus or staying fungus free once you do get rid of it.

I did the oral medication route (prescription). Lamisil I think. Took it for a couple of months and it took 6 months or so before my toes cleared up (and they still look kinda gnarly).

A friend did the same and his toe fungus came back with a vengeance a year or so later. Not worth it to him to keep taking the medication as the potential side effects aren't so great.

I tried tea tree oil for a couple of years (yeah, every morning for a couple of years). Toes never smelled so sweet...but, didn't do anything for the fungus.

So, my little piggy's look better than they have in years, but, not perfect. I don't have any huge yellow nail grunginess like I used to, but, they still looked hammered. Too many years in tight shoes and stubbed toes.

There's promise in some of the newer topical treatments. Maybe one of those would work?

Guy Keesee · Jul 18, 2016 · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 105
Ho Man....

Grown Women would scream and children would cry if I took off my shoes in the Gym..... But its almost all gone now, here is what I do.

I did the doctor thing Lamisil (sp?) and it got better then it came back...

Tea Tree oil and Tea Tree Soap, Trader Joes is where I get mine.... also get a stiff brush- the kind for cleaning really dirty hands....

Wash your feet every am using the soap the brush, scrub the bottom and the top of your toes and then treat with the oil.... as soon as you can after work, remove your shoes and socks and go barefoot or at least open toe....wash feet just like you did in the am. Put hand cream on your feet every nite to keep them soft, that helps the nails.

Use different shoes, I rotate 3 pair of work shoes.

Wash your socks every time.

It has been two years for me... none are yellow and four look perfectly normal...

keep it up and it gets better.

TMI .... I know.

Derrick W · Jul 18, 2016 · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 60
The best way to deal with foot fungus is to make it as hard as possible for fungus to grow on your foot. What is the ideal environment for fungus to thrive? A warm, dark, moist place, like the inside of a shoe. Solution: wear open toed sandals (or better yet, no shoes at all) as much as possible. That means all time: at work, when hiking, at home, when driving, etc. If it's cold and your feet are uncomfortable, so is the fungus (your circulation will improve). If it's really cold, wear socks with sandals.

It won't hurt to get some OTC or prescription medication to get it under control, but wearing open toed sandals as much as possible is an excellent long term management strategy.

ViperScale · Jul 18, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 165
Just soak your feet in watered down bleach from time to time. Bleach is like the ultimate fungus killer.

Mark Roth · Jul 18, 2016 · Boulder · Joined Jan 2008 · Points: 10,735
Derrick W wrote: wear socks with sandals.
This is also very effective birth control.

Faulted Geologist · Jul 18, 2016 · Lawrence, KS · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 8
I heard that painting your toenails pink helps, but only if worn without socks in sandals. Equally good birth control, covers the condition, and open to air. Hope to never have this fungus among us. Seriously though, wouldn't painting the nail starve it of a surface to gain oxygen from?

Brent Apgar · Jul 19, 2016 · Out of the Loop · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 35
Mark Roth wrote: This is also very effective birth control.
Genius

highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion · Jul 19, 2016 · Colorado · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 0
I lost my entire big toenail due to a marathon and ill fitting shoes once.

After the initial soreness went away, my climbing shoes fit so nice. Maybe the surgical option is the best.

Bill Shubert · Jul 19, 2016 · Lexington, MA · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 50
I think my right pinkie may have got some fungus or something. About 6 months ago it started growing super thick and bent in weird ways. I kept hoping it would grow out, but no such luck. At least it's just the pinkie.

My feet are a mess anyway. plantar warts that no treatment (including several under a dermatologist's care) can cure. The weird pinkie toenail. Athlete's foot unless I use tinactin daily. And I get trenchfoot if I wear shoes for too many hours in a day (my feet get painful sores and the skin starts coming off).

ViperScale · Jul 19, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 165
highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote:I lost my entire big toenail due to a marathon and ill fitting shoes once. After the initial soreness went away, my climbing shoes fit so nice. Maybe the surgical option is the best.
I hit my big toe nail on the wall and lost it onetime climbing. Once it fell off a week later that was the best climbing I ever had until it grew back. I have been considering removing them all permanently ever since then.

Soak them in some water downed bleach for about 30secs every other day, probably the best fix you will find.

Rosalieva · Jul 19, 2016 · southshore MA · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 0
I love this thread!!
All I can say as a female is ... I have invested in ballet flats as my go to dress shoes to hide the ugliness... And hope he doesn't have a foot fetish

KevinCO · Jul 22, 2016 · Loveland, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 55
File the surface of the toenail so that it is thinner and more porous. Clean with a toothbrush and food grade Hydrogen Peroxide.

Prepare a poultice with this mixture:
Aloe Vera Gel
Colloidal silver (don't thin the mixture too much)
a few drops each of:
-Oregano Oil
-Bergamot Oil
-Tea Tree Oil
-Lavender Oil

Use a gauze pad and sports tape and wear the poultice for a day at a time.

In addition to the poultice, soak your toes in Ozone Water.

Also, alternate the Aloe Vera poultice with an Extra virgin Coconut oil poultice.

Cut way down on foods that feed fungus infections such as sugar, corn, wheat.

Drink 1-2 T of Organic Apple Cider vinegar in the morning in a glass of water.

Be consistent over a few weeks and you will see healthy nails growing in. The poultice works hundreds of times better than just applying product topically. Prepare the poultice so that it has a generous amount of the product-it will be a little messy.

https://www.amazon.com/A2Z-Ozone-Aqua-Purpose-Generator/dp/B00K70QDJA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469222618&sr=8-1&keywords=a2z+ozone+water

https://www.amazon.com/LifeForce-Compact-Barebones-Colloidal-Generator/dp/B00LWHCJ7M/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469222666&sr=8-6&keywords=colloidal+silver+generator

Cat. · Jul 22, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 0
Vick's Vapo-Rub works pretty well, according to the internet and this tiny, uncontrolled study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21209346

Marc801 C · Jul 22, 2016 · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
KevinCO wrote:Cut way down on foods that feed fungus infections such as sugar, corn, wheat.
Um, that's for yeast infections in women.
For toenail fungus? Total BS.

Jed Andersen · Jul 24, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 45
I use a Dremml with a sand paper bit to grind down thick nails that a clipper can't clip. Make sure this is done outside. I recommend a face mask or respirator so not to breath in nasty toe nail dust. Ask the Dr. for Jublia, a topical. Try to stay barefoot.

Creed A · Jul 24, 2016 · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 680
So far I haven't got the fungus (knock on wood), but I've completely lost my big toe nail twice. Both times, it was because I walked off a multipitch route in my climbing shoes. If you want to lose a nail or end a great day of climbing with misery, try that.

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