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outside corner pitch 3 belay bolts and memorial plaque.


ddriver · · SLC · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,344
Trent Boghley wrote:Well the bolts are gone, but whatever inbred utard who used the excuse they were an eyesore and/or not up to 'ethics' forgot to clean up all the rope and slings the ENTIRE way up the climb. Way to prove half your point... I'll bet you snuck up late at night, real bold... maybe try not being such a piece of shit. I hate that you're in my community.
That "inbred" is apparently Mike White, two posts above your own. With the above as your self-introduction, it's obvious you have nothing to contribute here. Go choke on a cock would you?

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ddriver · · SLC · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,344
mikewhite wrote: Don't bother arguing with stupid people bro. I'm convinced that the only reason that he has a dog in this fight is because he placed the bolts. We all know the rules and they are not that complicated! Trent or Brent take your ball and go home, your done here.
He is not the person who placed the bolts. That individual has class.
mikewhite · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2007 · Points: 55

Whoa hold the fuck on. I did not remove the bolts or the plaque I only acted as a consultant .

But I agree he should choke on a cock and I have one and will volunteer my services for him to choke on said cock.

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,089
mikewhite wrote: Whoa hold the fuck on. I did not remove the bolts or the plaque I only acted as a consultant . But I agree he should choke on a cock and I have one and will volunteer my services for him to choke on said cock.
wait ! Blame me I'll take the credit,
I did it !
If they re-appear I'll fly my bicycle back, haul it up there and chain It there, ( it's a Huffy )
If you need plaques and gadgets to free climb in a clean climbing fashion ,
You belong in a sport park setting like Logan? Or American Forks where there is need for Artificial attachments

Edit, 530pm so 8 hours later,

Yeah, that was course ~ no chocking - no sword play! ( sword swallower )

That was keeping it adolescent, tongue-in-cheek, non-constructive for the sake of Hyperbole.

And "Justa Beater", - that's what I call my Huffy bicycle- that is ment as a big compliment,
I was giving a nod of approval to you, for your righteous effort to bring about civil discourse. Thanx,

I'm firmly for leaving the free and clean climb as it is:
a free clean moderate climb that provides a place to feel the actual learning curve in progress.
A climb where the confidence gained from a epic or from success, teaches and where
satisfaction of self contained. Leave no trace , clip no bolts adventure builds more confidence,
justa beater · · sandy utah · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 95

Hey now, come on guys let's not turn this into something inappropriate. Remember kids read these things, we don't want to send a message that this is how we solve problems, constructive criticism please and try to keep it clean.

Tofu Brain · · Denver · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 45

Just an observation I made.

If you google "Trent Boghley" you will find a search result for pinterest. The url name associated with this account is "atnuks", remember this name, it will become important later.

Search Result

Now if you click on the pinterest link you will see the url name has been changed to "Brent Troughly"

Thats strange

If you copy the url, pinterest.com/atnuks you will be redirected to pinterest.com/brenttroughly :O

Now for the fun, the username "atnuks" is a rather unique name, so unique that only one person is associated with it. All of the accounts have a person by the name "Kyle" attached to them. I decided to look at the instagram account for the user /atnuks, I found a person tagged in one of the photos, I needed one with a first and last name. I searched Facebook for this person, then searched their friends for anyone named "Kyle". There was one profile that popped out at me...It was a profile for a Kyle Skunta... funny because "atnuks" is "Skunta" backwards.

BOOM

Trent Boghley = Brent Toughley = Kyle Skunta = Troll

MFL Layton · · Sandy, UT · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 5

speaking of memorial plaques, what's with the one on the South Ridge of Superior? Did the guy die on that route or just really like it?

Rob T · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 10

Passed away on the route, early 00's iirc. Morning run up with Andrew M as I recall.

OldManRiver _ · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 105

that's the same thing I understand, the guy was a Dr. I think and fell off the route

re: trentbroughly Kyle Skunta

wow

if the shoe fits?



mind blown by mtn project data scientist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLpIMRowndg
cdec · · SLC, UT · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 540

Oh shit. What are we going to do about this?

writing on the wall

mikewhite · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2007 · Points: 55
cdec wrote:Oh shit. What are we going to do about this?
Call the slca clean up crew. Let them take on satanism.
Stevie Nacho · · Utah · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 591

I just read this thread. I am outraged at the disrespect given to Brian Smoot by some of the people posting here. You deserve a Wasatch slap across the face for this.

Troy Anderson

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,089

"The Writing On The Wall?! I hope that that Tag, Harps of Satan, is at American Forks in the area around the Timpanogos N P

Chossy grid bolted rock is where it starts, gaining acceptance,
Still no excuse!
chop the route make a statement against ego spraying jerk offs

Stevie Nacho wrote:I just read this thread. I am outraged at the disrespect given to Brian Smoot by some of the people posting here. You deserve a Wasatch slap across the face for this. Troy Anderson
yes, total ignorance, leading to disrespect . . . .
For me the sad thing is the evidence of the coming changes.
It looks like 30 years after stopping the Euro trend, it has been accepted
through or due to climber apathy. The majority of the climbers have zero travel experience.
Some show no interest in the history or why it is worth adhering to
-The American Revolution -Clean Climbing.
With time and travel you will come to value un-adulterated SELF-POLICED, as close to natural as can be, wilderness.
One trip to the Italian or French Alps will cure you bolt happy Cowboys.
Or Change you into chisel using, ( Ivan Green?) summit ruining with
Religious icon (like Cross es) memorial spitting wankers .

Stop thinking like it is yours to Fuk up, no need to paint on the wall .
Use marker stones at the base if you must.
Do not tolerate this creeping trend.
The majority of climbers with decades of experience, stood up against this. Yes there are pockets where drilling and hold making is a dirty secret. The skill level & strength of modern climbers proved that restraint from altering the rock was better for the whole community.
We were able to see what could happen with out care.
We took the initiative and did not let the grid bolting & chipping & ego stroking go un attacked,
for many it was as important to leave no trace, be entirely capable,
and carried bolts for emergency.
Only when all you could do was hang in slings and bang a hammer to get one 1/4 inch by 1/2 stud in, shove a wire on it and leave gear on the retreat,
but return in a few days to clean up and send......
Think about it

Timpanogos N P
Worth a visit, get out of the heat
ddriver · · SLC · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,344


Damn that's beautiful BS. I suspected all along you'd chosen the left.
justa beater · · sandy utah · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 95

Something I'd really like to point out to everyone commenting or reading this is that this post is getting a lot of traffic there are nearly 10,000 views, and nearly 150 comments. This could mean folks are watching, if so hopefully taking note that there are those out there among us that do take the clean climbing movement seriously. You want to bolt a new project or develop an area as an FA, I say more power to you! I'm not against bolts, sport climbing has its place and I regularly participate in it. But plaques, painted markers, chipping and retrobolting are practices that in my opinion do not live up the standard of ethics developed by so many that came before our time. Climbing is, always has and always will remain dangerous however, probably less dangerous than driving your car provided that you use the safety systems correctly and you don't become over ambitious. We don't need to bring mountains down to our level to climb them, we should rise to the mountian. That means you que up on an R rated project and send in good style, without neutering the risk, or you realize it's not for you and you back off. You don't go back later and add a bolt to the scary parts so that it meets your standards of risk tolerance, you simply look elsewhere to climb and maybe one day your tolerance will be ready to meet the objective or maybe it never will.

cdec · · SLC, UT · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 540
Michael Schneider wrote:"The Writing On The Wall?! I hope that that Tag, Harps of Satan, is at American Forks in the area around the Timpanogos N P Chossy grid bolted rock is where it starts, gaining acceptance, Still no excuse! chop the route make a statement against ego spraying jerk offs yes, total ignorance, leading to disrespect . . . .
Nope not American fork. So much spray from someone who clearly doesn't have a clue.
You put it up you get to drill where you want and tag it how you want. If you weren't there on the FA than you don't get to alter the climb, unless you ask those that had the vision and put in the work. It's that simple.
Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 456
cdec wrote:...and tag it how you want.
A completely dick move regardless of where it is. And if that's a local norm, then the locals are cracker dicks as well.
cdec · · SLC, UT · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 540

^^^^
Congrats you just called some of the Wests most notable, best and prolific First Acesionists "cracker dicks".
I typed to quickly. Tagging or placing plaques should probably be skipped altogether.

nooky brown · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2004 · Points: 5

In reply to cdec.
What was the point of posting the pic?
I gather you are a Wasatch local but I can't tell if you have a problem or not with it. I don't think that you do, so why bring it up? It's such a touchy subject that posting it was just asking for trouble.

The last couple of postings could be from tweekers living in Oklahoma or the Head of the Alpine Club for all I know. What I do know is, posting the pic was not a good idea and for you to now go on the defensive about it makes me chuckle.

For the record, I do not care one way or another.

justa beater · · sandy utah · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 95

So far this thread has been fairly on point, without the usual pissing match comments. Let's try to keep it that way. The back and forth banter is fine when it's actually on topic, when we start calling names and berating each other is not a great portrayal of our community.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Northern Utah & Idaho
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