Size DOES Matter


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Leslie McG · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 410

So as I was leaving Sin City this morning a silly TSA person decided to rifle through my carry on and give me shit about my nut tool. Mind you, I have never had an issue with a nut tool in my carry on so I was not amused when he whipped out a ruler and measured the nut tool. He told me if it was more then 7 inches long it would not be able to fly. I questioned him , since I've made several calls to TSA directly about nut tools and ropes as carry on items and have traveled all over with both in my bags, never having an issue. I wonder if the rules keep changing, if this guy was a noob or bored, or if size really does matter?

John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,530

Well according to the TSA, any tool longer than 7" is not allowed as carry on luggage.

Prohibited Items

Pretty much all 'sticks' for sports are banned from carry on, along with ice axes. It's probably a line the TSA had to draw somewhere and for whatever reason decided that anything longer than 7" could potentially be used as a weapon.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 275

Looks pretty clear from that website that greater than 7" is verboten for carryon.

ViperScale · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 230

I have gotten pat downs etc from carrying a full rack in my bag (from the looks of it they basically saw the nut tool in my bag and thought it was a knife than i am assuming it was the climbing chalk flagged as explosive etc.

My big cams are bigger than 7 inch... what is there something where a solid piece of metal has to be under 7 inch cause I am pretty sure my laptop goes through and it is bigger than 7 inches.

ClimbLikeAGirl · · Keene Valley · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 15

You're asking for logic in a system that has zero. You're probably better off playing the lottery if you're looking to win.

Leslie McG · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 410
John Wilder wrote:Well according to the TSA, any tool longer than 7" is not allowed as carry on luggage
But according to their live humans manning the phone system nut tools and climbing equipment are considered sports equipment and are welcome in carry on luggage. Luckily they didn't take mine and it's a cheap piece of gear, but the rules seem as arbitrary as many of our other government policies. Shock and awe there!
doligo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 277

Just because they didn't stop you previously, doesn't mean they wouldn't stop you now. TSA is notorious for missing weapons and letting them through - something like 95% failure in undercover testing. Just be happy they are getting more thorough. There is nothing wrong with some employees being more vigilant than lax at doing their job.

Ken Noyce · · Layton, UT · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 2,067
Leslie McG wrote:So as I was leaving Sin City this morning a silly TSA person decided to rifle through my carry on and give me shit about my nut tool. Mind you, I have never had an issue with a nut tool in my carry on so I was not amused when he whipped out a ruler and measured the nut tool. He told me if it was more then 7 inches long it would not be able to fly. I questioned him , since I've made several calls to TSA directly about nut tools and ropes as carry on items and have traveled all over with both in my bags, never having an issue. I wonder if the rules keep changing, if this guy was a noob or bored, or if size really does matter?
Most likely your problem was that you called it a nut "tool" as tools greater than 7 inches aren't allowed. I bet if you had explained that it is a climbing nut remover and falls under sporting goods you would have had no problem.
BrokenChairs BrettC · · Sultan, WA · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 245

I have traveled several times with a full rack including a nut tool and have had TSA question it only once. They did however, spend almost 40 minutes tearing my Jetforce pack apart even though there is no canister causing me to almost miss my flight. My guess is the employee was new and was just trying to follow the policies and wasn't familiar with climbing equipment. If they would have taken it or told you you need to check it I would just ask to talk to a supervisor and they will likely let you pass through security. If not then I guess it is probably something LAS has chosen to do. Every airport is different I always have the hardest time getting through Boise they tend to be really strict about what is allowed and what's not. They questioned my nut tool but let it go once they saw it wasn't sharp and it was clearly part of the climbing rack. I wouldn't let it get to you though I am more often surprised that I don't get asked about it then when I have been.

Tylerpratt · · Litchfield, Connecticut · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 35

Dude just go through pre-check. You get a background check then at the nearest city they ask you a serious of stupid questions.

Do this then you can skip the security checks. It's great!

Working as intended.

Leslie McG · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 410
kennoyce wrote: Most likely your problem was that you called it a nut "tool" as tools greater than 7 inches aren't allowed. I bet if you had explained that it is a climbing nut remover and falls under sporting goods you would have had no problem.
Brilliant! It's all in how to word things!!!
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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