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C4 package a good deal?


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Spidey Rocks · · San Francisco · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 15

The time has come for me to get starter trad gear of my own. I don't want to buy used from people I don' know for a variety of reasons. Just wanted to get 2 cents from experienced gear heads about the C4 packages below for $650, $280, and $440, respectively:

backcountry.com/black-diamo…;ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6Y2FtOjE6MzE6Y2Ft

backcountry.com/black-diamo…;ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6Y2FtOjE6MjY6Y2Ft

backcountry.com/black-diamo…

I'm mainly considering C4 for now and already have basic sports gear. Thanks.

Micah Klesick · · Vancouver, WA · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 3,964

I'd say yea, if you want to buy new, then 20% isn't bad. You can probably find deals for slightly more off if you look around, or get an additional coupon by signing up for some outdoor coupons. Just depends on how much you want to dig for more than 20% off.

A-K · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 0

I would say so, it's hard to beat 20% off that unless you're buying used or have a pro-deal.

I would ask yourself if you really plan on using the 4,5" and 6"...

You could buy two of the smaller sets for $560 and use the extra $370 on, a couple small cams, nuts, draws, biners and what-not.

Brandon Seerup · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 8

gearexpress .com has c4s 25% off right now, might be worth checking out. Ive never tried, but allegedly backcountry will price match

JWong Wong · · Los Angeles, California · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 10

Check out the sale at Steepandcheap.com (outlet site for backcountry.com)

They have the .5-3 for 25% off $262.50 and the .3-6 for $607.12

steepandcheap.com/black-dia…

I'd agree with A-K to start with the .5-3 set first unless you already know you want to do wide stuff.

BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 340

you may also want to use activejunky to go to BC's website and save even more

Spidey Rocks · · San Francisco · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 15

Thanks, guys for your feedback and tips. A rare consensus on Mountain Project :)

Jim Turner · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 290

http://www.backcountrygear.com/black-diamond-camalot-c4.html

25% off and you choose which cams to get

Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25

That's a pretty good deal. The best I have ever seen on new C4s .5-3 was $226 AFTER activejunky.com rebate. I shopped for a few months and paid right around $245 for my set after rebates and felt like it was a great deal.

Always buy from a reputable retailer that gives you a good return policy like backcountry or rei for stuff like this just in case you run into issues. The deal I got was backcountry. At $260 from them after activejunky, I say dooooooo it! You could wait 3-4 months for a better deal.

Spidey Rocks · · San Francisco · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 15

Has anyone bought cams from Steep and Cheap before? If I buy from them, I'd pay about $260 for the 0.5-3 set without having to go through active junkie and wait for the rebate and pay the same price. I'm just not sure if Steep and Cheap is legit.

Jim Turner · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 290
Spidey Rocks wrote:Has anyone bought cams from Steep and Cheap before? If I buy from them, I'd pay about $260 for the 0.5-3 set without having to go through active junkie and wait for the rebate and pay the same price. I'm just not sure if Steep and Cheap is legit.
Backcountry has 0.5-3 for the same price, is reputable, and no waiting for rebate
Brandon Seerup · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 8

Steep and cheap is legit. Its just another front end for backcountry. Basically their outlet department. I bought that exact package from steep and cheap.

Luc Ried · · Batesville, AR · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 440
Spidey Rocks wrote:Has anyone bought cams from Steep and Cheap before? If I buy from them, I'd pay about $260 for the 0.5-3 set without having to go through active junkie and wait for the rebate and pay the same price. I'm just not sure if Steep and Cheap is legit.
Steep and Cheap is legit. It is owned by backcountry, they use it to liquidate overflow, overstock, and past season items.
BrendanN · · Atlanta, GA · Joined Dec 2015 · Points: 169

+1 on steep and cheap, I got my 0.5-3 set for $216 which is I think as cheap as they've ever sold them, anything in the 260-270 range seems to be as good as it gets now.

Optimistic · · New Paltz · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 300

In addition to the 0.5-3 set I'd grab a 0.4. Then leave the #3 on the ground unless the guidebook calls for it. You definitely need a #3, just not nearly all the time. It's a very rare pitch (except maybe in the desert) where I don't place a 0.4 though.

Ted Pinson · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 190

Yeah, but at 0.4 I like to move into the X4 territory. I feel like C4s are great down to 0.75, OK but not terrific under that. I vastly prefer my 0.5 X4 to my 0.5 C4, especially for horizontals. I agree that 3 or higher is fairly rarely used unless you're a massochistic offwidth climber.

patdeli · · merced, CA · Joined May 2015 · Points: 150

Look into price matching, active junky, and promo codes I was able to use all three to purchase a set of c4s ( #s.3-3) under $200.

Gavin W · · Surrey, BC · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 183

Like others have mentioned, Active Junky is great. I've used Steep&Cheap quite a bit in the past, but be aware that sometimes they list the exact same price as Backcountry does, but you can't get ActiveJunky points through them. So sometimes Steep&Cheap is good, sometimes it pays to check Backcountry as well to see if you can get the same price + the ActiveJunky rebate.

Optimistic · · New Paltz · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 300

Also your sport rack will fill in to a degree but the 0.5-3 package doesn't include anything like enough slings. Need for these will vary of course, but for a generic trad rack I think almost everyone would carry at least 8. I place more gear than many, and I'm not a huge fan of rope drag, so I usually take 12-15 alpine draws, 1 or 2 of which are 4-footers. As you probably already figured out, because you'll be carrying fairly few cams by modern standards (including zero small cams) you'll need more slings than average for the nuts.

Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25
Optimistic wrote:In addition to the 0.5-3 set I'd grab a 0.4. Then leave the #3 on the ground unless the guidebook calls for it. You definitely need a #3, just not nearly all the time. It's a very rare pitch (except maybe in the desert) where I don't place a 0.4 though.
I second this. I like my .4 C4. Plus, if you buy the rackpack for matching biners, you will already have 1 leftover in the right color for it ;)
Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25
patdeli wrote:Look into price matching, active junky, and promo codes I was able to use all three to purchase a set of c4s ( #s.3-3) under $200.
What website let you use a promo code after a price match?
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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