Outside climbing compaired to inside

Savannah23 wrote:It's like this: 5.11 is different everywhere. Let's say u are in Clear Creek Canyon, then it's relatively easy. If you are in JTree or Yose then its freaking hard. Let's say you are a crack climber in "the Creek", then it's easy cos you are essentially on tr the whole time, it also depends on the size of your hands. Go by this: if its an old school route , 10 was the hardest they could ever imagine climbing back then so do your math, 11 is gonna be stiff. New age sport 11's are gonna be chill. Talking about gyms, the shorter the walls the stiffer the grades. Also the more ghetto location of the gym the stiffer the grades. Suburban mom/pop gyms cater to egos, hence softer grades. Think Tucson's Rocks and Ropes vs Boulder's Movement. there is no comparison in grades whatsoever. You catching my drift? Okay, take two sister gyms{Planet Granite} Sunnyvale vs Redwood City(or some other ghetto location I cant remember). HUGE difference in grades. Same company, different grades. your welcome.