Drone at the Gunks Sunday Feb 28th


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J.R. Berry
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Any one know who was flying a drone around at the Gunks sunday morning around 9am ... I think they got footage of me leading up Hight E for my first time and I would love to see it !!!! — Feb 29, 2016
MojoMonkey
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J.R. Berry wrote:Any one know who was flying a drone around at the Gunks sunday morning around 9am ... I think they got footage of me leading up Hight E for my first time and I would love to see it !!!!
Assuming they were permitted, you could try to find contact info from the preserve (e-mail address below). If not, and for any others thinking of bringing a drone, note the preserve's policy

Mohonk Preserve Policy on the Use of Unmanned Aerial Systems/Drones

Mohonk Preserve prohibits the use of unmanned aerial systems (otherwise known as unmanned aerial vehicles, drones, radio-controlled model airplanes and/ or any other equipment of this type) on or above its property unless it is approved through our permit application process. This policy supports our commitment to the protection of wildlife (specifically in this context, birds of all species), the safety and well-being of our visitors, as well as their personal experiences in nature. This prohibition includes, but is not limited to, any and all use of drones for purposes such as aerial photography, videography and entertainment/recreational use.

Mohonk Preserve will accept applications for the operation of unmanned aerial systems for purposes such as scientific research, mapping, authorized photo/film shoots, or other Preserve-related projects only. Applications will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. If approved, Mohonk Preserve will issue a limited permit for the use of unmanned aerial systems for the specific project and time period for which the application was submitted.

Click here to view and print the application.

The completed form shall be returned to: Jon Ross, Associate Director of Visitor Services, at jross@mohonkpreserve.org.
— Feb 29, 2016
Rob D.
Brooklyn, NY
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was not psyched about it doing flybys while I led modern times. — Feb 29, 2016
brettbergeron Bergeron
Brooklyn, NY
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the rumor on facebook is that it crashed into some trees :P — Feb 29, 2016
wonderwoman
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Last season it was a trail leaf blower. This season we have drones to look forward to? Ah, the great outdoors! — Feb 29, 2016
Pnelson
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Hey, does anyone have one of these things? — Feb 29, 2016
Kevin Heckeler
Upstate New York
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Pnelson wrote:Hey, does anyone have one of these things?
Nope, but I'm pretty sure a Peregrine's impact at 200MPH will do the same to the drone as it does to its usual prey. ;-) — Feb 29, 2016
coldatom
Cambridge, MA
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Can we train the falcons to go after the pilots? — Feb 29, 2016
Eric G.
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Unless NY has more restrictive regulations (was too lazy to google), I believe it remains an open question at which height a drone may fly above private property without trespassing.

IIRC the Feds own 500 feet and up, and at least one court has ruled the private property owners own the first ~80 feet of air. That case may have no relevance in NY tho.

Depending on the height, the drone may have been legal assuming the operator was standing outside the preserve. Perhaps someone with more free time at the moment can find a NY case or reg. — Feb 29, 2016
Allen Sanderson
Oootah
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Drones < 400 feet

https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/ — Feb 29, 2016
Eric G.
Saratoga Springs, NY
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Those are guidelines that you are "strongly encouraged" to follow, FAA regs start at 500 ft. IIRC. — Feb 29, 2016
RockinOut
NY, NY
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Can you hear the drone over the leaf blowers on the carriage road and the traffic on 55/44? Between the motorcycles and jake brakes of trucks I don't think you'd hear a drone unless it was on you...or are those the black flies? — Feb 29, 2016
Eric G.
Saratoga Springs, NY
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Or the terrified screams of "ROCK!"

Because who doesn't expect tranquility when they visit the gunks. — Feb 29, 2016
Jake D.
Northeast
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john2.71 wrote:Without drone photos, how will anyone find the start of High E??
follow the cow bells — Feb 29, 2016
grubbers
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Speaking of drones, did anyone catch that plane that buzzed the cliff yesterday? — Feb 29, 2016
Eric G.
Saratoga Springs, NY
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yeah, totally killed my buzz when I was leading modern times.

I can only send at the gunks in pure silence and communion with nature. — Feb 29, 2016
Eric Engberg
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Bill Healey IV wrote:Yep, that was me with the drone. And yes, I did hit a tree. Drone is fine though, just go super windy later on in the afternoon. I do agree with a lot of posters on here, the drone noise does really kill the vibe of climbing. I'm sorry if I ruined your climb! But I only ran it for ~20 minutes. And I got some great footage of you on High E! Shoot me a PM and I can get you the footage over the next couple of days.
So did you obtain permission from the Preserve? — Feb 29, 2016
JRM89
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So dumb question. what is the risk of these things crashing and chopping a rope? I've never climbed near one, but are they getting close enough to you that that is a risk...? I did actually google this but didn't find much discussion, which suggests nothing like that has happened... yet.

I did find this, though, which was pretty funny: — Feb 29, 2016
Kevin Heckeler
Upstate New York
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I don't think the blades on these smaller models can cut a climbing rope. Drones are VERY light and it takes all 4 blades to keep them in the air. The blades IIRC (friend owns one) are made of light plastic. — Mar 1, 2016
Kevin Heckeler
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coldatom wrote:Can we train the falcons to go after the pilots?
They already do if you get too close to the nest. — Mar 1, 2016
sheindl
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Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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