Carabiner Recall


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marc rosenthal · Feb 15, 2016 · Canyon Lake, TX · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 105
The recent recall of Black Diamond carabiners led me to close examination of all the carabiners on my rack. Although none of my BD biners were manufactured in the time period noted in the recall I did notice that others which had been on my rack for many years have the same issues. Specifically, I am referring to the rivets that hold the gates in place on the Light D and the Standard Ovals. Since many of these have had plenty of wear and tear over the years, the etched numbers are not always visible. Instructions for inspection state that if the rivet heads are flat, the carabiner should be retired and returned. Unfortunately, that means that ten (10) Light D and one (1) Screwgate get retired due to a manufacturing defect but I don't get any replacement from Black Diamond. Is anyone else dealing with this issue?

Logan Schiff · Feb 15, 2016 · Brooklyn, NY · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 45
Have you asked BD if they will replace them? I would be really surprised if they refused to offer replacements if the same defect applies.

Gavin W · Feb 15, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 23
Are you sure the rivet heads haven't worn off from excessive use? All of the carabiners involved in the recall were produced after they moved all their manufacturing back stateside, so any older worn biners shouldn't be a part of that.

Mark Ra · Feb 15, 2016 · Mid-Atlantic/CO · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 60
Are the heads worn flat or are they unpressed? Are yours flat but still mushroomed over to prevent pull-through?

marc rosenthal · Feb 17, 2016 · Canyon Lake, TX · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 105
Thanks for your response and comments people. I've attached pics of three different carabiners which all have the same issue: the top rivet at the gate is flat and flush with the gate. There are an additional six carabiners with the same issue I didn't post to avoid redundancy. No mushrooming going on and no issues with the gate sticking but still, very suspect. I find it very hard to believe that all nine carabiners would have the same issue due to wear and tear. I will contact BD and see what they say.
carabiner sample 1

carabiner sample 2

carabiner sample 3

Gavin W · Feb 17, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 23
I'm interested to hear what BD has to say about those. I wonder if they've changed the design on those biners, perhaps those rivets are designed to sit flush but still have a wider edge.

20 kN · Feb 18, 2016 · Hawaii · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,123
marc rosenthal wrote:Thanks for your response and comments people. I've attached pics of three different carabiners which all have the same issue: the top rivet at the gate is flat and flush with the gate. There are an additional six carabiners with the same issue I didn't post to avoid redundancy. No mushrooming going on and no issues with the gate sticking but still, very suspect. I find it very hard to believe that all nine carabiners would have the same issue due to wear and tear. I will contact BD and see what they say.
I dont think it is wear. Try putting a punch on the pin and tapping it lightly with a hammer. If they dont move, you're fine. If they do move, call BD.

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