Hex chordelette length


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Mark lewin · Feb 11, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0
I got some hexes without cord. Was wondering what you folks thought a good total length should be? I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere on the forum, I just couldn't find it.

Cheers

Mark

Jake Jones · Feb 11, 2016 · Richmond, VA · Joined Jul 2011 · Points: 763
Personally, I wouldn't want them hanging any lower on my harness than a long quickdraw. Whatever length that is. 8-10 inches I'm guessing. Somewhere around there.

M Sprague · Feb 11, 2016 · New England · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 4,750
About 2.5 feet works best for scourging. Whatever finished length you decide on, remember to add more than you would think for the fisherman's knots and tails.

Ancent · Feb 11, 2016 · Reno, NV · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 37
Id say about 2-2.5 feet to make them hang in a similar fashion to cams. Also makes it a natural thing to clip once set since the carabiner will dangle similar to your other pro.

Hex cordellette length the same as a cam.

Mark lewin · Feb 11, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0
I like it, makes sense to set them the same length as the cams. I can always extend with a draw if need be.

Charles Ciaffone · Apr 20, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 240
I am thinking of re-slinging my hexes (BDs on wire hangers). From the above pic it looks like I should go through both sides of the hex. I have an older one that only has holes on one side, so was looking for opinions on that. I always did the fishermen knots so I could tuck them inside the hex, but can't do that as well if the sling passes through both walls of the hex.

eli poss · Apr 20, 2016 · Durango, Co · Joined May 2014 · Points: 136
Charles Ciaffone wrote:I am thinking of re-slinging my hexes (BDs on wire hangers). From the above pic it looks like I should go through both sides of the hex. I have an older one that only has holes on one side, so was looking for opinions on that. I always did the fishermen knots so I could tuck them inside the hex, but can't do that as well if the sling passes through both walls of the hex.
A knot on the outside would be better than one inside because the knot makes it slightly stiffer and easier to place. With the modern titan cord or other spectra/nylon blends, the cord is actually stiffer than wires. Kind of like the smaller stoppers. I like my slung hexes better than wired ones BD now makes.

Charles Ciaffone · Apr 21, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 240
Thank you. I am also planning to take a suggestion from another thread and step the cord length to minimize the tolling of the hexes.

Mathias · Apr 21, 2016 · Loveland, CO · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 120
Something you might consider is off-setting the lengths of the cord loops so that when you rack them in order, instead of all sitting side by side, they alternate low to high. This will mean less bunching and less clanging.

(Edit: looks like that idea was just covered)

Marc801 C · Apr 21, 2016 · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0
Ancent wrote: Hex cordellette length the same as a cam.
This and the thread title are misleading - these are not cordellettes.

that guy named seb · Apr 21, 2016 · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 0
Buy some DMM hexes rack them individually, you get to carry less draws, it's gr8.

anotherclimber · Apr 21, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 0
eli poss wrote: With the modern titan cord or other spectra/nylon blends, the cord is actually stiffer than wires. Kind of like the smaller stoppers. I like my slung hexes better than wired ones BD now makes.
Thanks for bringing this up Eli. A climber I recently met in my area mentioned this same thing of a lot of tech cords being really stiff. I have yet to use any type of tech cord, but could foresee using it as a less expensive option than sending out hexes to be reslung. In yours and other peoples opinions, is there any sufficiently small diameter yet strong enough tech cord that is flexible enough to be used for this application? Or perhaps using a thicker static nylon accessory cord?

Because you are absolutely correct that slung hex's are far superior to wired ones.

Mathias wrote:Something you might consider is off-setting the lengths of the cord loops so that when you rack them in order, instead of all sitting side by side, they alternate low to high. This will mean less bunching and less clanging.
This is brilliant! Thank you for mentioning this. I'm surprised DMM and Wild Country don't intentionally do this on their hexes right out of the factory. DMM is all the same length, and Wild Country only makes the two smaller sizes slightly shorter in length than the larger sizes.

Rick Blair · Apr 21, 2016 · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 163
Get rid of all your hexes and buy cams.

..........Its a hex thread, someone had to say it.

anotherclimber · Apr 21, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 0
Rick Blair wrote:Get rid of all your hexes and buy cams. ..........Its a hex thread, someone had to say it.
I already own a double rack of cams and still love my Wild Country Rockcentric hexes. Someone had to say it back to you. :D

eli poss · Apr 21, 2016 · Durango, Co · Joined May 2014 · Points: 136
I use Bluewater titan cord which is 5.5mm thick and is a blend of spectra and perlon(nylon cord). Other companies make a similar thin, stiff cord, such as sterling's power cord. Brand doesn't really matter, as long as the cord is stiff enough and thin enough to fit the holes. I really like the stiffness because the only ones that are floppy are the biggest two, i think they're BD #12 and #13. The rest of them have the stiffness of wired nut.

Make sure to tie the cord in a triple fishermans bend and leave adequate tail. Also make sure the metal edges that touch the cord haven't become sharp. I would take some pics for examples but all my climbing gear is packed up to move out of the dorms next week.

anotherclimber · Apr 21, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 0
eli poss wrote:I have Bluewater titan cord which is 5.5mm thick and is a blend of spectra and perlon(nylon cord). I really like the stiffness because the only ones that are floppy are the biggest two, i think they're BD #12 and #13.
Oh wait, I think I misunderstood you. It seems you like a stiffer sling on your hexes. I'm looking for a more flexible tech cord so it's not as close to a wire in stiffness.

eli poss · Apr 21, 2016 · Durango, Co · Joined May 2014 · Points: 136
If that's the case, just use some nylon accessory cord. probably want at least 6mm, 7 would be better if it will fit. then it will be plenty flexible.

Mathias · Apr 21, 2016 · Loveland, CO · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 120
Rick Blair wrote:Get rid of all your hexes and buy cams. ..........Its a hex thread, someone had to say it.
I'm waiting for the day when my wife decides we can go climb on nothing but DMM Torque Nuts. We combined racks when she moved and ended up with 3 sets!

Charles Ciaffone · Apr 21, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 240
Rick Blair wrote:Get rid of all your hexes and buy cams. ..........Its a hex thread, someone had to say it.
I am always surprised when I see someone leading with nothing but cams on their rack. I enjoy the art of placing gear, and to me cams are the last resort. That's just how I climb, though. I hope we can all find what we enjoy and cheer on others with their choice of style.

Mark lewin · Apr 22, 2016 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0
Rick Blair wrote:Get rid of all your hexes and buy cams. ..........Its a hex thread, someone had to say it.
Seriously? Do you climb around the country? If so you'd know that hexes are bomber at some places. Yes I have cams, many of them, but they are not always the go to. Depends on the situation and place.

Rick Blair · Apr 22, 2016 · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 163
Mark lewin wrote: Seriously? Do you climb around the country? If so you'd know that hexes are bomber at some places. Yes I have cams, many of them, but they are not always the go to. Depends on the situation and place.
It was a tongue in cheek comment making fun of the constant posts on the forum here telling people to get rid of hexes. Now I get to make fun of you.

I own BD and DMM hexes BTW.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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