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How do you defend yourself against wildlife when hiking or approaching a climb?


Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 290
rocknice2 wrote:Look at the wounded by bad guy.
One could easily suspect that most of the people wounded by 'bad guys' are themselves not 'good guys'...
Jeremy in Inyokern · · Inyokern · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 73
rocknice2 wrote: May you need to get your facts straight. nationmaster.com/country-in…
Look up the statistics for intentional homicide (and yes it includes suicide) canada has a us beat by a long shot.
Jon Zucco · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 245

How do you defend yourself against bad guys with guns when hiking or approaching a climb?

Mark E Dixon · · Sprezzatura, Someday · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 549
Jon Zucco wrote:How do you defend yourself against bad guys with guns when hiking or approaching a climb?
Hey Jon!

I keep a couple of poisonous snakes in my pack to throw at bad guys.

People don't kill people. Black mambas kill people.
Anyway, you can have my banded krait when you pry it out of my cold dead hands!
Medic741 · · Red Hook, New York · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 265

Since getting chased up a tree by a pack of feral dogs I carry bear spray if there's a rural or wilderness approach.

Jeremy in Inyokern · · Inyokern · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 73

I carry this almost every place I go. City, wilderness, car...The only time I don't carry it is when I know I will be having more than one drink or when I have to carry my rack. The extra weight is just to much at that point. I think I need a sub compact...

Adam Stackhouse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 13,105

An old Alaskan guide told me, "if you use a pistol, better to shoot yourself then the bear".

That said, many folks living in real wildernesses have a 44 mag and a rifle. But I'd like to have something rather than nothing.

csproul · · Davis, CA · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 330
Adam Stackhouse wrote:An old Alaskan guide told me, "if you use a pistol, better to shoot yourself then/than the bear". That said, many folks living in real wildernesses have a 44 mag and a rifle. But I'd like to have something rather than nothing.
one letter changes the entire meaning of the sentence
Jeremy in Inyokern · · Inyokern · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 73
Adam Stackhouse wrote:An old Alaskan guide told me, "if you use a pistol, better to shoot yourself then the bear". That said, many folks living in real wildernesses have a 44 mag and a rifle. But I'd like to have something rather than nothing.
The pistol isn't for bears. The bear can is for the bears.
Adam Stackhouse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 13,105
csproul wrote: one letter changes the entire meaning of the sentence
Agreed.
Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25
Adam Stackhouse wrote: Agreed.
I would hope so. It's a fact, not a matter of opinion.
Jon Zucco · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 245
Mark E Dixon wrote: Anyway, you can have my banded krait when you pry it out of my cold dead hands!
Do you wield them like nunchucks before you throw them? Please tell me you do a little snake chucking before you chuck them.
akafaultline · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 225

As one of the few people that have used bear spray or ever shot at an animal in self defense I still like the option of using bear spray first. That being said, bear spray is miserable stuff and even if you don't spray it on yourself at all-you still feel the effects of the mist.

I have seen 4 brown bears in the last week, all of them acted perfectly fine. The moose this week was a nasty piece of work on the other hand.

I was hiking down crow pass in Alaska and saw a moose 50 feet away or so-not a threat at all and my dogs were in leash because I was concerned about more brown bears in the area. Moose saw me and just got closer and closer. The moose charged me once and I ran away and dropped my backpack. It went and smelled my backpack and then trampled my pack-which caused me to start yelling at it even more. It then Chaeged me again and go so close that I could touch Its about until I sprayed it with spray. It immediately bolted the area.

Part of me thinks the effectiveness, at least initially of bear spray is the noise and mist coming out of something (a person) which the attacking animal doesn't remotely expect. Then, nearly immediately the pepper kicks in and makes everyone mis

moose trampling my pack
brown bear fishing for salmon on crow pass
Andrew Wood · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 60

when you poke something with a knife, and the blood oozes onto the grip and then when you go to poke it again and your hand slides over the blade. This is my only fear.

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 290

Yep, moose and hippopotami - bad news when surly.

Sam Stephens · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 1,020
gription wrote:I carry this almost every place I go. City, wilderness, car...The only time I don't carry it is when I know I will be having more than one drink or when I have to carry my rack. The extra weight is just to much at that point. I think I need a sub compact...
I've got the compact of that, it's great, perfect size
Seth Jones · · New Lenox, IL · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 25
Andrew Wood wrote:when you poke something with a knife, and the blood oozes onto the grip and then when you go to poke it again and your hand slides over the blade. This is my only fear.
Pretty much any hunting knife has a guard to prevent your hand from slipping onto the blade when you stab.
justin harr · · moorcroft, wyoming · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 0

Wolves are NOT a threat to people.

Unless you enjoy eating any ungulate on the face of western part of the northern hemisphere. Carry a gun and blast every one of those worthless sons a bitches. Bear spray and guns are the only logical defense in any of these instances besides most predators have hides that make a great rug for the floor or the back of your couch.

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

Raccoon and Marmot -- the scurge of the animal kingdom. There are no innocents!!

Adam Stackhouse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 13,105
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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