What's the deal with the chair in RC?
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nicelegs wrote:But Austin, Andrew is right, blood IS on your hands. Nice try rationalizing though.Wow. If this is true, Alex Honnold must not be able to sleep at night. Since when did climbing ethics indicate that doing something successfully that killed someone else mean you have blood on your hands? |
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KC Utah wrote: Wow. If this is true, Alex Honnold must not be able to sleep at night. Since when did climbing ethics indicate that doing something successfully that killed someone else mean you have blood on your hands?You should look up what "strawman" means. Honnold is far from the first to solo, far from the first to publicize it, and what he does takes a tremendous amount of talent and training. People don't watch 60 minutes and think "I could do that", they think what you thought "Fuck that". Rope swings take knowing where to swing, rigging it up, and jumping. There isn't much to it and is accessible to pretty much anyone. I tend to agree with personal responsibility to a certain degree. Then again, young guys think they are invincible. I'd be dead if youtube existed when I was 19. If Austin hadn't made his stupid video, would this kid have gotten the idea to go there and die? It's extremely unlikely. |
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nicelegs wrote:There isn't much to it and is accessible to pretty much anyone.And free soloing isn't accessible to anyone? Great logic above, from many respondents. |
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Ryan Nevius wrote: And free soloing isn't accessible to anyone? Great logic above, from many respondents.Ryan, I'm not going to die on this hill, so whatever. Let me restate why I think you are wrong though. Rock climbing is hard, takes specialized skills, and seems pretty mysterious to many. Displays of it isn't likely to cause people to free solo. If anything, it'll contribute to roped crowds at the gym and sport cliffs. Rope jumping isn't climbing. Anyone can go to home depot OR REI and attach the rope to those bolt things and jump. Absolutely insane but it takes no skill put yourself in that situation. The arch has basically turned into an attractive nuisance now. I bet more people will die too. The last thing going through some poor guy's head will be Austin's stupid video. |
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Josh Allred wrote:Rock Canyon has some striking climbing features minutes from town. It is a very small area, hence a very limited resource. We should tread these resources lightly. As climbers we must be leaders in environmental responsibility preserving for future climbers and outdoor enthusiast to enjoy. Found this posted on FB. IMO I'm not sure this is something we want in RC.That's one striking feature I wouldn't mind climbing |
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Woodchuck ATC wrote:I love the chair and have it as my desktop for the last few weeks....brings up some nice discussion.Chairs belong behind desks, not on top of them (or on top of climbing walls). |
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You deserve all the harsh rhetoric you get. |
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Andrew Gram wrote: But I am totally unsurprised that when another stupid publicity stunt in Utah pops up, the same crew is responsible.Agree with Andrew. To be honest no one would ever even consider bolting a chair to the side of a cliff or mountain in the mountain communities I have lived in or near, where the wilderness and views are kind of the idea to begin with. I suppose this area is a bit of shit show anyway? |
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" I suppose this area is a bit of shit show anyway? " |
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That Corona Arch video is grossly pretentious. (and all their videos for that matter) |
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Andrew Gram wrote: I am totally unsurprised that when another stupid publicity stunt in Utah pops up, the same crew is responsible.+1 I have seen a lot of stupid shit on the internet so wasn't surprised to see this ridiculous chair. The arrogance and ignorance that keeps coming from these folks is very disturbing. Land managers don't like to see this kind of crap. Maybe you don't know it, but there are a lot of folks (volunteers) working under the radar with land managers for no compensation to preserve climbing access. Most of it goes completely unnoticed by the majority of people out there climbing. Stunts like these mentioned in the previous posts do nothing but threaten our access to keep climbing in these areas. Also boys, I wouldn't be judging your awesomeness by how many people "like" it on Facebook. I just went to Donald Trumps facebook page and he has almost 780,000 likes. Lots of stupid people out there, that "like" a lot of stupid shit. |
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Self Aggrandizement. |
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I don't feel like they are in any way responsible for someones death. That guy made a bad choice in trying to replicate something he saw in a video. They don't owe it to the world to provide safety instructions and warning for their videos. |
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Kenny Clark wrote: insideedition.com/videos/19…Pretty cool story. I feel that the whole "lugging up the chair" part made it more interesting. |
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Just what we need, notoriety of the stupid. I'll have friends and extended family asking where I placed my special chair. |
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D.Buffum wrote: Other headlines from Inside Edition on the same day: Greg Lott says he was Farrah Fawcett's Secret Love Real Life Hobbit Living in Oregon WoodsI always go to Inside Edition, Extra and ET when I need reputable climbing and access information in life. Hell, where would we be today in society without the Kardashian sisters helping us in our social life too? |
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--Sigh-- This garbage makes me miss DanO.... |
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I gotta ask Austin Barid, Dallin Smith you guys wouldnt happen to be mormon boy scouts in the past by any chance?? Just wondering |
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So that was one of their former troop mates at Goblin Valley a few weeks ago. Quite the legacy. |