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Extreme Mountaineering or Extreme BS? I think the latter...


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NC Rock Climber · · The Oven, AKA Phoenix · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 60
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It is difficult for me to express adequately how objectionable I find this endeavor to be. I am FAR from an expert on alpine climbing. However, I know enough to recognize that the sheer size of this expedition is appalling. With the same level of support, I would bet that there are literally thousands of outdoor athletes that could walk out the door today and complete this "expedition." If this ass-hat was really concerned about stopping child trafficking, he would take the $5.6 mil and the massive amount of time he is wasting on this boondoggle and get involved in directly supporting a charity that is doing something to help the children. This whole thing is just a waste of resources to inflate this dudes ego.

Your thoughts?
Nate K · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 225

I agree completely, it sounds like a publicity stunt for underarmour. These guys are rich wannabes and i feel bad for the guides who are gonna be hauling them up the mountain

LRL · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 0

3,780 porters!

NC Rock Climber · · The Oven, AKA Phoenix · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 60
mission14.org

facebook.com/14Summits

Interesting to look at the web site and FB page. He has the balls to ask for donations after spending $5.6 Mil on this farce. Due to their sponsorship of this "expedition," I can guarantee that I will NEVER buy anything from UnderArmour.
Christian · · Casa do Cacete · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 1,470

Three whole days to do K2?!

Didn't the guys in "Vertical Limit" already do it in one?

Siberia · · Birmingham, AL · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 30

"I'm doing this with only sherpa support"

"Doing Everest in 8 hours"

"God save the Queen"

"I'm not doing this from an ego perspective"

"Think of the children"

"My faith powers me out of the crevasses"

My douchery is rivaled only by my narcicissim. Fin. UNDERARMOUUUUUUURRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

SavageMarmot · · Nederland, CO · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 190

His wife would be totally hotter if he was that good.

en.r · · Long Beach, Ca · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 55

Spend a fortune, kill some Sherpas, possibly save lives in Nicaragua?

Ben B · · saint helens, oregon · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 325

Aside from the whole trafficking thing, which I think we all know is nothing more than a great way to solicit funds for the expedition... if he pulls it off, he's the stud of the century.

Don't be jelly, homos. Some guys will do cooler stuff than you. Don't hate.

Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180

When they fail you'll never hear about their "expedition" again.

NC Rock Climber · · The Oven, AKA Phoenix · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 60
Ben Beckerich wrote:if he pulls it off, he's the stud of the fucking century.
I totally disagree. He is just a well funded, egotistical self-promoter. Others may feel differently, but I think that there are literally 1000s of outdoor athletes that could successfully complete this "expedition" with all the support he is putting in place. What he is doing has little to do with alpine climbing or mountaineering, and everything to do with excessive support through extravagant spending.
Ben B · · saint helens, oregon · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 325
NC Rock Climber wrote: I totally disagree. He is just a well funded, egotistical self-promoter. Others may feel differently, but I think that there are literally 1000s of outdoor athletes that could successfully complete this "expedition" with all the support he is putting in place.
Totally agree. Ten thousand, probably. But I don't see anyone else doing it, do you?

NC Rock Climber wrote:What he is doing has little to do with alpine climbing or mountaineering, and everything to do with excessive support through extravagant spending.
No, dude. You should have stopped at "thousands could do this, if...."

Climbing a 8k is hard. Climbing all is really hard. Climbing them all in days each has never been done before, and will require an extremely high level of genetic predisposition, physical conditioning, ability to negotiate hostile extreme altitude alpine conditions- just as much as any other 8k expedition, except he's going to do something that's always done at a snails pace super fast.
Ben B · · saint helens, oregon · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 325

I actually don't really give a fap about the guy. My comments above pretty much sum it up for me... right on, bro.. go get it.

Like Ray said, he's just going to disappear anyway. Hope he makes it, but I'm not going to be his cheerleader. Hate if you want, I guess.

NC Rock Climber · · The Oven, AKA Phoenix · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 60

No worries, Ben. You probably have a TON more experience doing alpine stuff than I do and are more qualified to comment on how tough this is. From my seat on the couch, this just seems like a "stunt" more than a climb, and like he is buying the summits. The reason no one else is doing this is that there are not too many climbers with $5.6 mil to spend on a 14 day "expedition." This on its own does not bother me. Trying to position this boondoggle as benefitting underprivileged and exploited children just rubs me the wrong way.

clint helander · · anchorage, alaska · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 611

It's pretty simple.

Under Armor wants to get in to the outdoor market. They have a huge budget to spend on marketing. They don't know anything about mountaineering. This guy has climbed in the Himalaya. His teams of sherpas are going to fully fix every route he climbs prior to him being on them. That way, in theory, he can helicopter from one base camp (or higher) to another base camp (again, or higher) and claim a summit when he has done none of the logistical leg work himself.

What about weather? Conditions? Will he succeed. No.

This guy talks about saving the children or human traffiking...like he gives a fuck. Awareness climbs are bullshit. Whether for cancer or children or human traffiking or whatever bogus cause people claim to be trying to raise money for. Most expeditions use most of the funds to benefit their climb...far more than goes to the organization in the end.

If this guy wants to do this project and claim a speed record...fine. I mean...I think he's a douche-puddle but don't list some stupid cause that you are trying to raise awareness for. It's so transparent. No one buys it. And if they do they are dumber than he is.

He won't have the respect of anyone in the climbing community either way. He's doing it for the wrong reasons. That is the one thing that is clear.

clint helander · · anchorage, alaska · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 611

Oh and there are no right reasons to do this series of climbs. Speed records of established trade routes on 8000m peaks is lame. If you really want to gain respect, do it without oxygen or sherpa support. That would give the project a lot of cred.

Ben B · · saint helens, oregon · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 325

Nobody has soloed all 14. Anybody wanna gimme some money?

Keenan Waeschle · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 210
clint helander wrote:It's pretty simple. Awareness climbs are bullshit.
+1
D B · · Denver · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 205

what a goober

Cornelius Jefferson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 105

yecch

douche chills

superkick · · West Hartford, CT · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 60

"To ensure speed and safety as Mission 14™ strives for a 100% success rate, Nick’s team will climb the ‘normal’ routes on all 14 peaks, and will use supplemental oxygen above 23,000 feet."

HAHAHAHAHAHA

so how do you manage

"This small, agile team of expert climbers is a key factor in Mission 14™’s ability to break multiple high-altitude records. "

to do ^^ by using standard routes and supplmental oxygen?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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