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A PLEA TO ALL CLIMBERS

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Robbie Mackley · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2010 · Points: 85

Please carry a head net on your harness at all times. After being rescued from a killer bee attack, the recent attacks in the Tucson area, and the recent death of Steve Johnson. We ALL need to carry them. Good luck out there, and be aware!
Much love to my community.
-Mackley

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,482

An epipen would be good. The allergic reaction is the problem with bee stings.

Eric Engberg · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 0

I'll insist that my gym stock them.

Steven Groetken · · Durango, CO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 390

Definitely be cognizant of your surroundings. Reports have said that killer bee activity in regards to size of hives and overall aggression is extraordinarily high this time of year in So. AZ.

Geir www.ToofastTopos.com · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 2,635

I am putting one in my multipitch pack.

camhead · · Vandalia, Appalachia · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,240

So, a guy dies and we get an animated GIF thread? Classy.

Brother Numsie · · AnCapistan · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 880

Perhaps the AZ/NM community should start some sort of a database here flagging locations of hives when they are discovered. Red flag these warnings on the wall page right up front, also again on the route page.
Make them highly visible. I know it's more work for the local admin., but hey...

Kyle Stapp · · Pennsylvania · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 3,550

Mike Lane wrote: Perhaps the AZ/NM community should

22 mins ago From Centennial,

start some sort of a database here flagging locations of hives when they are discovered. Red flag these warnings on the wall page right up front, also again on the route page. Make them highly visible. I know it's more work for the local admin., but hey...

+1. Yes it is more work but I don't see it being ridiculous. Many humans are allergic, many humans are allergic but can withstand 1-2 stings (the most common) but what about 5, 10, 15? The dude that just passed was stung by 100+ the article said. It makes sense to warn people as the info becomes known.

How would you feel if you knew of a hive right on a route, didn't say anything, and later found someone got injured or died on it? I would pause for sure and come to the conclusion that a 1 min report is worth it.

meghan c. · · el paso, tx · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 121

This unfortunate event is a wake up call to us all. Just when you though you are a safe climber and addressed all of the variables ... killer bees. The epi pen and antihistamines sound like good proactive measures, but Im not sure how a head net would really make a difference in a mass attack. Tight fitting sunglasses would probably prevent debilitating eye stings, but a hundred stings to the head will likely be as fatal as a hundred stings anywhere else. Or am I missing something? I do wear a head net while keeping bees and nothing else special except for light colored clothing. Dark colors make bees more likely to sting.

slk · · Reno, NV · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 135

"So, a guy dies and we get an animated GIF thread? Classy."

Never has Guideline #1 been so fitting.

OP you should nuke this thread.

Robbie Mackley · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2010 · Points: 85

It's absolutely disgracefull that you all find so much humor in the horrific death of a fellow climber.
Thanks to everyone with something to actually contribute to this thread.

Ben Brotelho · · Albany, NY · Joined May 2011 · Points: 520

Those africanized bees are only problems in select areas, but ALL CLIMBERS should be carrying head nets now? haha

We should all carry puffy jackets at ALL TIMES because climbers have been killed by the cold!

Robbie Mackley · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2010 · Points: 85
meghan c. wrote:This unfortunate event is a wake up call to us all. Just when you though you are a safe climber and addressed all of the variables ... killer bees. The epi pen and antihistamines sound like good proactive measures, but Im not sure how a head net would really make a difference in a mass attack. Tight fitting sunglasses would probably prevent debilitating eye stings, but a hundred stings to the head will likely be as fatal as a hundred stings anywhere else. Or am I missing something? I do wear a head net while keeping bees and nothing else special except for light colored clothing. Dark colors make bees more likely to sting.
After being rescued from a bee attack, August 2010, I can tell you sunglasses are worthless and giving yourself the ability to keep bees out of your nose eyes mouth and ears will buy more time to conduct a self rescue. If I had mine with me I could have saved a lot of heart ache, not to mention $30000 and 6 days in the cardiac unit at St. Joseph's hospital.
Ben Brotelho · · Albany, NY · Joined May 2011 · Points: 520

oh, and:

WU TANG FOREVER

Robbie Mackley · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2010 · Points: 85
Stich wrote:An epipen would be good. The allergic reaction is the problem with bee stings.
It's a good idea, but when being swarmed the thousands of bees is the problem. Someone with an allergy would likely be in big trouble after 10 or so eppi pen or not. That said, I'm not allergic, but still carry one.
Robbie Mackley · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2010 · Points: 85
Ben Brotelho wrote:Those africanized bees are only problems in select areas, but ALL CLIMBERS should be carrying head nets now? haha We should all carry puffy jackets at ALL TIMES because climbers have been killed by the cold!
Don't take so much offense to my suggestion. You guys with the negative feedback should get a fuckin life. Go climb or something.
Brian Croce · · san diego, CA · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 60

really no one psoted the youtube of nicholas cage screaming about the bees yet?

im dissapointed.

Jeremy Hand · · Northern VA · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 50

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU97w2DH5mc

Robbie Mackley · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2010 · Points: 85
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This is me after 1500+ stings. It's nothing to fuck around with or joke about. Thank you for your time.
Ben Brotelho · · Albany, NY · Joined May 2011 · Points: 520
Robbie Mackley wrote: Don't take so much offense to my suggestion. You guys with the negative feedback should get a fuckin life. Go climb or something.
No offense taken! Just finding the humor in it.
thomas ellis · · abq · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 1,690

Ben, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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