Another one of those threads!
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Bomber or not? |
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The cordelette, by itself, would be an adequate anchor. The additional slings on the right side are unnecessary clutter. |
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FrankPS wrote:The cordelette, by itself, would be an adequate anchor. The additional slings on the right side are unnecessary clutter.+100 |
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What was the thought process here? Are you trying to back up the tree to... half the tree? |
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This reminds me of a time when i was super new to anchors and i backed up a BFT (big F*#$ing Tree) with a green c3...My partner still makes fun of me for that one ten years later |
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kennoyce wrote: +100word. |
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FrankPS wrote:The cordelette, by itself, would be an adequate anchor. The additional slings on the right side are unnecessary clutter.That was my initial thought, sometimes my mind plays tricks om me. |
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Sorry, it's just not battleship-bomber. |
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Why not just use the rope ? |
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Em Cos wrote:What was the thought process here? Are you trying to back up the tree to... half the tree?+1 You couldn't find another tree to use as a back up???? I mean come on. What if that tree rips out or breaks. Then what??? |
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What's with all the clutter in your anchor? Just wrap the rope a time or two and tie it off. All that extra crap makes your anchor less safe by introducing more fail points. You need to find a mentor. |
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Perhaps I did forget the KISS principle. |
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With a tree that large, your redundancy comes with a knot in the cordelette. The concern isn't that the tree will fail and that you will need to back up the tree (you have bigger concerns if that tree fails) - your concern is that your system shouldn't rely on a single strand. An elegant approach is to take a bight of your climbing rope around the tree and tie a BFK between the bight and the tails. The knot creates two independent ropes around your anchor and distributes your load evenly through the master point knot. Otherwise, do the same thing with a cordelette and call it good. |
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Thanks everyone for the input. |
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K.I.S.S. is always a good thing, but more is usually better than less as well. |
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Or, climb with twin/doubles and just do a bite with overhand on each rope separately, then clip them to the quicklinks. Two ropes, always redundant, and you never need to do 1/2 length raps. Makes climbing with a group of three way fast. |
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If you do use just cordalette make sure it is tied in such a way so if one strand fails (like the one around the tree) you don't have total anchor failure. |
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I like to carry a few acorns on Grade III+ climbs, so I can plant them for anchors. Sometimes takes a while, but safety first! |