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Person1 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 5

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dameeser · · denver · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 251

you signed up just to say that? must be reeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaal mad.

shawn bradley · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2006 · Points: 25

yeah dave, yeeeaaaahh. absolutly g@d damn right.

ryan dillon · · Tucson, AZ. · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 330

What exactly is a talented climber? Someone who can climb 12s as soon as they take up rock climbing or someone who doesn't mind runouts? Are you born talented or do you work hard to become talented? At least you got an extra bolt for your next route. Good luck though

taylorpur · · vancouver, bc · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 5

you must be super awesome!!!

matt davies · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 25

"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Sorry to hear someone messed with your art.

Tparis · · Pottersville,New York · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 270

I just had this very experience yesterday in developing a new route (albeit of a much easier grade) My mantra is "Spicy yet Safe for the grade" I only place a bolt if there isn't adequate natural pro available and then only the minimum necessary to keep it safe. Unfortunately the climbing community is losing some of its ethic of not altering a route that was established by someone else. Hopefully you find the person who did it and educate her in climbing ethics.

Lee Smith · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2003 · Points: 1,545

Your indignant rage might be taken more seriously if you spelled "vandalized" correctly. Just sayin'.

Eric D · · Gnarnia · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 230
daved wrote: If you can't do an established route without littering it with bolt/s then stay off of it.
+1
Geir www.ToofastTopos.com · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 2,635
daved wrote:If you can't do an established route without littering it with bolt/s then stay off of it.
+2

What kind of bolt/hanger was added?
RockinOut · · NY, NY · Joined May 2010 · Points: 100
matt davies wrote: Sorry to hear someone messed with your art.
...I think I`m going to paint some eyebrows on the Mona Lisa
Mike Diesen · · Sierra Vista, AZ · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 365
Tparis wrote:Hopefully you find the person who did it and educate her in climbing ethics.
Looks like the person was a girl. That narrows it down quite a bit.
CalmAdrenaline · · SL,UT · Joined Jan 2008 · Points: 115

Fawk this makes me sad and angry, if your not capable of sackin up to lead a runout climb stay off it, go to gumbyland where its nice and safe for you disrespectful, disgraceful, and unethical climbers.

Jack Ziegler · · San Luis Obispo, CA · Joined May 2010 · Points: 55

Point taken. Now just chop the bolt.

Legs Magillicutty · · Durango · Joined May 2002 · Points: 590

The dude who did the true FA as a high ball probably thinks you "VANDOLIZED" the route when you added your 2 measly bolts.

Jon Ruland · · Tucson, AZ · Joined May 2007 · Points: 539
Mike Diesen wrote: Looks like the person was a girl. That narrows it down quite a bit.
unfortunately no. this means it must have been someone from out of state, probably just passing through. now we'll never find her.
TopRope Princess · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 0
Tparis wrote:Hopefully you find the person who did it and educate her in climbing ethics.
How do we know it's a girl? What did she do, leave her lipstick at the base of the climb?
Desmond Hume · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 0

Is it such a big deal? If you don't want to use the bolt, don't clip it. I would take a hit to my pride over decking out any day...

Just me i guess but looking BA at the expense of a broken leg and the end of your season is not a smart trade off.

Josh Olson · · Durango, CO · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 255

desmond, watch the sharp end.

Olaf Mitchell · · Paia, Maui, Hi, · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 4,190

Did you put those bolts in (on sight) (on lead) from a natural stance? Did you top rope it and decide where YOU needed gear to lead the line? Is it still a good route? Go yank it and fill the cavity!

Tparis · · Pottersville,New York · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 270
TopRope Princess wrote: How do we know it's a girl? What did she do, leave her lipstick at the base of the climb?
I just assumed that it was a girl, because if it had been a guy he would have sacked up and climbed it as it was.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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