Trundling, for the sake of trundling. Is it illegal?
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If I know there's no one below me or anywhere within the vicinity, is there anything particularly wrong with trundling a large loose rock? |
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If there is no one around...how will anyone know it wasn't natural? Unless maybe you tell your friends how spectacular your trundle was and they don't like you and turn you in.... |
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having done my fair share of trundling (usually with a purpose), consider also the collateral damage you might do to the slope/rocks downhill... even if there is no one else around, most likely the rock coming down will dislodge others that may not be released until later, when there might be someone below. some precarious blocks remain in their natural state until disturbed. |
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Someone was killed a year or so ago by a trundler that thought nobody was around cause he was in the middle of nowhere. Be really friggin careful if you do. |
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knuckleheads toss rocks off from above with no purpose or thought and scare the bejeesus out of us. but I think our well thought out and helpful trundle of a dangerous block is OK, after some real shouting, warning, audio and visual search of the intended area below. nature would do it unannounced sooner or later so trundle away with care. |
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I agree that trundling is good fun. I don't think its right though, from a 'leave no trace' point of view. Also, what about the harmless carrying out of interesting rocks from our favorite places?... It doesn't feel right to me. |
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Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should. |
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generally a bad idea, but you didn't need a bunch of internet dorks to tell you that. |
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So I can' remember the location or the names, but a few guys were trundling I think in either WY or Montana and killed a very well know climber in the area...Might have been someone out of Lander. |
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Pete Absolon, the Rocky Mountain NOLS Director was killed by a trundled rock in the winds in 2007. |
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Thank you for helping tell that story...really sad on both sides of the coin. Since this topic came up, we can take this opportunity to remember one of the community that passed too early. |
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Price wrote:generally a bad idea, but you didn't need a bunch of internet dorks to tell you that.I resemble that. |
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The problem is you DON'T really know if someone's below you, as mortal tales have proven. |
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We had a long discussion about that here. |
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RIP Tony Rich, of Butte Montana. |
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Trundeling is something I did when I was a kid and didnt know any better. My dad was doing some trailwork above his house in WA and a large rock got away from him and the person helping him. The rock somehow made it all the way down through the forest and bounced up and knocked the back door off its hinges and sent it flying across the room. Luckily my little sister and step mom were out of the path of the door. You couldnt see the house from where the rock let loose. |
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WiledHorse wrote:certain county open spaces and parks actually DO have specific rules against trundling...Do you know of any in particular? Are any of these areas run by the feds or just state/county areas? |
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Colin Simon wrote: Do you know of any in particular? Are any of these areas run by the feds or just state/county areas?I know it's not in your neck of the talus, but the Mohonk Preserve (NY) specifically prohibits trundling. |