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Opposite of Redundant?

Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11
Greg D wrote: Catholic: Nundant
Philosopher: One-N-donedant
Maga: Trumpdant
Astronomer: Singularidant
Enviromentalist: Ecoretardant
Socialist: Your-single-piece-belongs-to-everyone-dant
Alex Zebastian: All-your-single-pieces-belong-to-me-dant.
Tradiban:  use-your-single-brain-once-dant
Excess skin dog: Re-pugdant.

I've Been-there-and-dundant. 

Jeremy S · · Southern California · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 45
Greg D wrote: Catholic: Nundant
Philosopher: One-N-donedant
Maga: Trumpdant
Astronomer: Singularidant
Enviromentalist: Ecoretardant
Socialist: Your-single-piece-belongs-to-everyone-dant
Alex Zebastian: All-your-single-pieces-belong-to-me-dant.
Tradiban:  use-your-single-brain-once-dant
Excess skin dog: Re-pugdant.

This post deserves a Dundie

Adam Gallimore · · Greensboro · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 313

America run-no-dun-dun

F Loyd · · Kennewick, WA · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 808
Sam Skovgaard wrote:

Isn't this pic from a MP post years ago? Wasn't this question asked with it? Seems familiar. 

Seth Cohen · · Concord, NH · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 70

NASA designates components whose failure means the death of the crew (i.e., there's no backup) as "Criticality 1." An example is the O-rings in the Challenger disaster.

Christopher Chu · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 40
Seth Cohen wrote: NASA designates components whose failure means the death of the crew (i.e., there's no backup) as "Criticality 1." An example is the O-rings in the Challenger disaster.

Not according to Billy Bob Thornton in Armageddon. "We at NASA don't take chances. We double up on everything." So they send Bruce Willis AND Ben Affleck on TWO kick-ass rides.

Sam Skovgaard · · Port Angeles, WA · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 208
F Loyd wrote:

Isn't this pic from a MP post years ago? Wasn't this question asked with it? Seems familiar. 

Here's where I found it: Missing the Point

F Loyd · · Kennewick, WA · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 808
Sam Skovgaard wrote:

Here's where I found it: Missing the Point

Yeah, I saw that. I remember this being an entirely too long thread a while back. Lost in the endless shitpost history of MP though. 

Pete Nelson · · Santa Cruz, CA · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 27

essential or singular

Kief Manning · · Elgin, AZ · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

This set up I have seen often and have no problem rapping through the ring! If it’s in good shape. But to the OPs question. I would go “DumbDumbDundant” with appropriate ominous music behind it

Kevin Neville · · Oconomowoc, WI · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 15

Except it isn't singular, it's using two anchors.
The anchor was duplicated, but in a way that added an additional unnecessary failure point.
Anti-redundant.

Kief Manning · · Elgin, AZ · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

It’s redundant. If that rappel ring is bomber it’s no different than a single locker

Kief Manning · · Elgin, AZ · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

For rappel. Never top rope fixed gear

sgt.sausage · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 0
Señor Arroz wrote:

Although the word for redundant in German is "redundant." 

So ... what's the opposite of "redundant" in German?

Dan 60D5H411 · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 3,239
sgt.sausage wrote:

So ... what's the opposite of "redundant" in German?

Nicht Redundant 

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 20
Sam Skovgaard wrote: What word would you use to describe the opposite of redundant? 
Considering a spectrum of safety, I think insufficient is the opposite of redundant and that sufficient is in the middle of the two.
Fran M · · Germany · Joined Feb 2019 · Points: 0
Sam Skovgaard wrote: We all like having redundancy in our systems, where the failure of a single component does not cause catastrophic failure.

What word would you use to describe the opposite of redundant?  Where failure of any component of a multi-component system causes catastrophe?  I can't seem to think of a word in the English language to describe this concept.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about.  In this rappel setup, failure of either bolt means decking.  

That anchor is not redundant. When properly threaded, one rappels off a single point. The remaining point is a backup that engages in case of catastrophic failure. And the ring and chain won't fail. Duplicating those makes no sense. True, in that case the anchor would be redundant but not in a good way.

Maybe the manufacturing processes are redundant?  And for that reason no component is duplicated in the security chain (harness, belay device, rope, etc.)

Even in the case of trad anchors without a solid point (thread, tree, horn, etc.), the load is distributed as best as possible and failure of a point should allow the system to continue working but the system is now compromised. Every component is engaged in the system.

TL;DR: Users do not introduce redundancy into recreational climbing systems.
Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

The chain and ring are redundant by virtue of being over-constructed with a strength of at least 10 times the anticipated load AND can be easily inspected. The anchors themselves (and the rock) are the unknown quantity so duplication is often felt desitable.

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,191
Sam Skovgaard wrote: We all like having redundancy in our systems, where the failure of a single component does not cause catastrophic failure.

What word would you use to describe the opposite of redundant?  Where failure of any component of a multi-component system causes catastrophe?  I can't seem to think of a word in the English language to describe this concept.

Essential. 
Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Jon Nelson wrote: Essential. 

Huh? 

Reread the question. 
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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