Winter is coming. Are you avy aware?
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I don’t bring avy gear ice climbing unless I’m skiing there. For the climbing itself having a beacon seems fairly useless. If it rips it’ll be from above and bury both of you. |
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I have bailed a few times because of snow conditions. more often I have either chosen a different objective or gone Nordic skiing that day. |
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Dara wrote:Yes, at times. Yes Yes Not really, it was geared more toward skiers, but the information was still relevant. |
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Do you climb in avalanche terrain? Yes. Probably everyone does whether they know it or not. May not be avalanche conditions at the time though. |
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Learning avy awareness is kind of like learning trad climbing IMO. You can learn it on your own. Books, videos, and experience helps. But a good instructor will help you learn a lot quicker and perhaps prevent you from making dumb mistakes. you can have a lot of backcountry experience and never had a problem, but you could also drive a car without a seat belt for years and just be lucky. But you could also take an avy course and think you know more than you really do and take more risk than you really realize. I took a course that was about 5 classroom sessions and 3 field sessions and felt like I still just learned the basics. I learned enough to know when it's dangerous but not enough to judge how dangerous it is and if it's safe enough to push it in sketchy conditions. I've also got a lot of experience and have learned when I think it's safe enough for me to go out. |
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or you could take a bunch of Avy courses, become an avy instructor and get flushed a bunch of times and or killed. It almost seems to me that the more you study this stuff the more chances you take. seems to be too easy to get into the we are pros, we have all the latest gear and techniques lets go have a look thought process... . then powder fever sets in and they end up takeing way more risks than someone like myself with no training but a fair bit of experience who knows that shit is dangerous. |
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A safety course is a must, even the smallest of new info you learn is valuable with ice climbing. |
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I just came back from the Canadian Rockies and made a point of carrying a beacon and gear with me on the approaches. It seems stupid and like overkill, but I am trying to change old habits. |
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Another failure of this survey is that I should have asked: Where specifically do you climb? Folks who climb in the Canadian Rockies encounter waaaaay more avalanche terrain than those who climb only in the NE United States (excepting Mount Washington). Likewise, it would be silly to carry around avy gear for a day in the Ouray Ice Park; but go a couple of miles up Camp Bird Mine Road and its a different story--depending on conditions, the risk can be very real. OR....head south to Eureka and you might scare yourself silly sidehilling across a loaded 35 degree slope to get to the Third Gully. Or not--depending on conditions. |
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Do you climb in avalanche terrain? |
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Marlin Thorman wrote: I have wanted to climb Polar Circus for like 4 years but every time I am up there the danger rating is "considerable" in the alpine. Maybe I will get lucky this year with a more stable snowpack. I'd recommend carrying the gear on the climb as well. If only to help with body recovery. |