Boise climber death 10/8/19
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wondering what happened at the black cliffs today. And with the death at castle rock recently, the two spots I climb the most have me thinking alot. Can anyone shed light on what happened? |
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There is a really informative post about what happened at Castle in July. I linked it below: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/117400634/death-at-castle-rocks-idaho |
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From the pictures in the news articles, it looks like it was the Mid Cliffs near More Than I Can Chew (5.9). |
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I read about the castle rock accident. Getting dropped off the end of the rope is digestible, but "equipment failure" freaks me out. Makes my head spin. Maybe he was cleaning and something happened when he unclipped to rap? |
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Colonel Forbin wrote: I read about the castle rock accident. Getting dropped off the end of the rope is digestible, but "equipment failure" freaks me out.It's a news report - don't get wrapped up in the likely incorrect two word explanation. Assume the writer doesn't know what a rope is or how a biner is used. |
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Grant's news quote was "equipment issue" which could be anything equipment related and not necessarily a "failure". |
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Equipment issue is very different from failure, however it can be interpreted in many different ways. It's a tragic accident and scary to see this happen at the home crag. I too want know what happened. Did some gear pull? Anchor cleaning accident? |
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I 100% agree that equipment failure and issue can be very different things, and I also know that local news media really does not understand climbing. |
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I looked at 5 different articles. They all used that same phrase “equipment issue”. It seems more like they are just repeating something they were told by someone on the scene. So they are not getting it wrong, at least this time. |
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Greg D wrote: I looked at 5 different articles. They all used that same phrase. It seems more like they are just repeating something they were told by someone on the scene. So they are not getting it wrong, at least this time Who very possibly (likely, even?) that they know as much about climbing as the reporters. For a lot of Sheriffs and LEO's, any separation of a climber from his/her gear/rope/anchor/et al is "equipment failure". |
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Marc801 C wrote: Huh? I didn’t read the word “failure” anywhere. |
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Sorry maybe I miss read the articles. Either way its scary this happens. There certainly isn't any second chances. The 3 people that watched it happen must be deeply torn forever. I couldn't imagine. Let's all just stay safe and humble. I thank every time out when it goes smoothly. It's too easy to make a catastrophic mistake |
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Greg D wrote: It's generic. Substitute "issue" or any other word that satisfies literalism. |
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Greg D wrote: The top summary underneath the photo in the link provided says failure. |
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Thanks for sharing, Von. I'm so sorry for your loss. |
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This is so sad. My deepest condolences to the family, friends and colleagues of this gentleman, and to the multiple communities involved. Thank you for your service, sir. RIP |
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Old lady H wrote: This is so sad. My deepest condolences to the family, friends and colleagues of this gentleman, and to the multiple communities involved. Thank you for your service, sir. RIP Oh no. So sad. I worked with a number of PJ’s while deployed and everyone of them was as professional and humble and amazing as they come.So sorry to read this. |
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Just posted locally. |
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Here is the full accident report. |
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Old lady H wrote: Here is the full accident report. Sounds like catastrophic failure due to shock loading. This happening on a rappel is very odd...if they were topped out, were there not fixed rappel anchors or a walkoff? Why were they rappelling off of two apparently marginal pieces? |