Rap rings on Cathedral Peak?
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Heading up this Saturday for what looks to be a blustery adventure. I’ve seen conflicting reports on whether there are rappel rings/bolts at or near the summit. SuperTopo says no and that down-climbing/leading is required. But I saw at least one online report where a climber who down-climbed saw another party rapping. Curious to hear from someone who has been up there recently. Thanks! |
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There were at one point bolts on the summit, however they have been gone for a while now. I suspect that if someone were to add bolts again they wouldn't last very long. |
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Just did it 2 weeks ago and there isn't any rap rings at the summit block! |
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No rap route. easy down climb but would hurt if you slipped! stay roped up down climb throw a cam or 2 in for your mate who just top belayed you, get around the corner and walk off. |
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https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-119.35961678624155&lat=37.8749888949328#.XY0VPPlKjct
Pretty stupid idea to head up on Saturday, based on current forecast (40% chance snow). (and that forecast is for TM campground elevation) http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200803200/WeatherFailure-to-Turn-Back-Inadequate-Clothing-Hypothermia |
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No offense but going into the alpine and looking for rap rings and/or not being prepared to downclimb 4th class is asking for trouble. |
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Matt N wrote: https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-119.35961678624155&lat=37.8749888949328#.XY0VPPlKjct Thanks for the article Matt... That is a sobering story of over crediting your abilities and under estimating the alpine. I find myself in this camp sometime and it is good to read these stories and be reminded a little hubris is good. Also light and fast keeps you safe in alpine, I was taught by a older climber that for a day climb you should always be able to carry your gear. Don't ditch stuff because when you need it it will be not there. |
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Hobo Greg wrote: That's a really good case study on compounding errors. Often hard to spot in the moment, but obvious retrospectively. |
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To be honest I don't think the summit is worth it - it's just a 20 foot block that can add an hour or more to your climb. There's usually a line waiting to get up there with folks enjoying the summit and then taking forever trying to figure out how to get down without leaving gear. I've found shiny 3 piece anchors up on the summit twice now. |
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Hobo Greg wrote: Okay you got me |
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Learn how to downclimb, or to make what is sometimes called a "Pinnacles rappel." A Pinnacles rappel can be easily and very safely done with a rope across the top of a formation (note also that the "safe" part isn't necessarily the same as the "easy" part - they aren't the same thing, and, certainly, being safe isn't always easy). And yeah, seriously reconsider going up there this weekend. Cathedral Peak isn't going anywhere... it'll be there for a future attempt. |
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I’m aware of the weather, I know it’s getting worse. Might not go. |
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sDawg- I just got the same email. Thanks. Probably gonna pass. Maybe head down to the Valley. I heard they got some rap rings down there. Plus they have a bar so I can get drunk before practicing my abseil skills. |
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Wait so Tioga pass /120 is closed for the season? Double checking! |
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no, it will probably re-open by Monday. just closing for this cold storm system coming through |
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John Muir did that shit without a rope and in big leather boots... |
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Marcus McCoy wrote: John Muir did that shit without a rope and in big leather boots... To say it in a nicer way: You’ll be fine, the only true downclimbing is off the summit block and it is maybe two moves and easy. If one person is scared, the other can easily spot from below. I’m a pretty big baby and didn’t even know that move was something to worry about because I never heard people reference it, don’t let people hype it to be something bigger than it is. If you can climb the route, you can downclimb from the summit easy. |