New Kings Canyon Guidebook
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Does Kings Canyon need a new guidebook? I’ve been out of work for the past couple weeks and started documenting the climbing areas in the park and getting pictures of routes/approaches. A long way from print, but wanted to weigh the opinions of those in favor of possibly popularizing the park vs. leaving it a solitary climbing area. Areas previously documented in the Southern Sierra Rock Climbing book have slowly been getting area specific guides, it’s only a matter of time before Kings Canyon presumably gets its due. |
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I would say yes, if you have enough good routes to fill a book and spread people out. |
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As I understand it a long time Kings canyon climber has already been working on a guidebook for the area (several years work already done). |
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I have done a bit of bouldering in KCNP and would be interested. |
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Tom, I think people would be pretty spread out, but some of the crags are exceptional and hard to avoid. |
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I’m also interested in hearing from the guy who’s been working on a guidebook about whether it’s still in the works. I’m in favor of making the information available one way or another, there are lots of great routes out there. And stuff that seems undeveloped too |
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I think a proper guidebook would be sweet. Maybe message @limpingcrap (Daniel Jeffcoach) to see if you guys could work together on getting his stuff from sekiclimbing.com and you’re new additions as a place to start? |
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Christian Black wrote: I think a proper guidebook would be sweet. Maybe message @limpingcrap (Daniel Jeffcoach) to see if you guys could work together on getting his stuff from sekiclimbing.com and you’re new additions as a place to start? I believe you meant, "limpingcrab." |
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PM me if you want to know about the climbing in The Gorge of Despair..., |
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tom donnelly wrote: spread people out. Why do you believe this works? There have never been so many climbing guidebooks, and the crags have never been so crowded. |
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Two things are mystifying to me and giving me pause. First is finding a quality aerial image of the park to label climbing areas. The second is a program to edit images to insert route lines, bolts, approaches, etc. |
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Hi Tyler! Just my 2 cents: |
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I would love to buy this guidebook if it existed. Although the one time I went there, the mystique of having such sparse route info was kind of fun. Other cool things to maybe include are the new-ish big free routes that Vitaliy M has put up (eg on Bubbs Creek Wall), and any ones the the Pullharder Collective folks have added. |
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I'm going to hijack this thread since its full of King's Canyon climbers to ask about the route Scarlet Slipstream. |
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I looked for Scarlet Slipstream briefly but didn't see it (had my son in my backpack one time and was fishing the next time so I didn't look hard). I heard several key bolts are damaged but didn't see them myself. |
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limpingcrab wrote: I looked for Scarlet Slipstream briefly but didn't see it (had my son in my backpack one time and was fishing the next time so I didn't look hard). I heard several key bolts are damaged but didn't see them myself. Thanks Daniel, sounds intriguing. I'm a bit of a slab aficionado. I'll have to see if I can't sucker someone one head up with me on that one before the winter closes the road |
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Richard R wrote:... Other cool things to maybe include are the new-ish big free routes that Vitaliy M has put up (eg on Bubbs Creek Wall), and any ones the the Pullharder Collective folks have added. I recall Vitaliy is working on a separate guide to backcountry climbs in the Sierra - that would include Bubbs Creek Wall and many other areas: > I been working on a guide to technical climbing in the High Sierra, had to do a lot of hiking/exploratory climbing and put a lot more time into topo drawing for the book.http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Summer-2018-in-photos/t13357n.html |
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@limpingcrab, you are spot on about the problem with gathering accurate historical data. So far I've been making up names based on descriptive info (ex: hand crack left of gully) which is lame. Getting some topos, route names, FA data from him would be stellar, but I have not tried to contact him yet. I've still been exploring the area and familiarizing myself more with the National Forest down here and some more obscure areas. I definitely intend to try and reach him. My intentions would mainly be to put profits from the book back into the park replacing old hardware, protecting the area, etc. Easily my favorite place! Your offer to help is accepted! If you are familiar with Sequoia we could put together a SEKI guide, focus on routes and omit boulders. Email me anytime you're in the park. I may just be in Cedar until NPS locks the gates. |
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The pullharder routes are the ones on mountainproject (like the foolproof plan stuff and a few others). Vitaliy and Roger’s book is for the high Sierra so it won’t include cedar grove but will have Bubb’s and climbs in that area. |
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Clint Cummins wrote:
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Jeremy R wrote: Wait, wait wait... I hear ya Jeremy, psyched about this new 10 pitch slab route! Here is the old beta on Scarlet Slipstream, the 5.11 slab:From the AAJ and the old SEKI guidebook |