App to alert friends when overdue from a trip
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Recently I've been thinking about building an app that would alert my friends or family if I don't come back from a climbing trip. |
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Cool idea. But, you probably need a server for this to work - if the service is phone based, and the phone gets lost you are SOOL |
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My Garmin InReach Satellite rig does that. It can provide live or scheduled tracking, too. |
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Doesnt the spot device do this? |
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I like amarius’s gmail idea. Very simple. |
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Have you seen https://kitestring.io/ - it might be what you're looking for. |
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Dylan B. wrote: Don’t see the need for a deadman switch. I just tell my wife where I’m going, and she knows I’ll text her when I’m on the ground. She knows roughly when “on the ground” will be. If I don’t text, she calls or texts. If I don’t respond, then she starts to worry and goes from there. I always respond. Some of us don't have wives or others we are comfortable with waiting for an 'ok' message every week. The deadman switch email seems like a good solution....write your trip details and a note that say that says: If you get this, trusted friend, I am x hours overdue. Please give me a call to confirm, then contact authorities. Good idea for us loners so we don't end up in a 127hrs scenario. |
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The point of a live person calling you in missing, is it works without signal or devices or anything else. A person you totally trust should have your plans, and not just a vague time. A hiker died in the Boise foothills when the search didn't happen until they didn't make it to work on a Monday. If they had let someone know on Saturday, they would likely be alive. Worse, it snowed. The body wasn't even found for weeks. |
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Xam wrote: But what if the trusted friend's phone happens to have a dead battery? Or they are out also, away from signal? Just something to ponder, for the OP. Best, Helen |
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Sounds like a recipe for bogus SAR callouts. An InReach allows you to notify the authorities that you need assistance, even before you are overdue, and allows you to notify your emergency contacts that you are OK, even after you are overdue. |
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Bob Harrington wrote: Sounds like a recipe for bogus SAR callouts. An InReach allows you to notify the authorities that you need assistance, even before you are overdue, and allows you to notify your emergency contacts that you are OK, even after you are overdue. yup, you are spot on. I know someone that went on a backpacking trip, planning to send out an "everything's OK" message every night to their parents. They lost the device and were forced to hike all the way out to civilization so that their parents wouldn't call in a rescue.... |
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Well, yeah, there's no cure for being a bonehead. It's worth telling your contacts that the battery might die and just because they don't get a daily message doesn't mean there's a problem. |
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Yes, for sure this would be server-based. I'm a web developer by day, so wouldn't be too hard to build. amarius wrote: Cool idea. But, you probably need a server for this to work - if the service is phone based, and the phone gets lost you are SOOL |
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My wife knows the rules.... a 4 day planned trip... don’t call for at least 2 days late. If a week to two weeks... don’t call for at least a week. |
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Thanks, everyone, |
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Old lady H wrote: you get by the way everyone did not that long ago. |
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Old lady H wrote: Huh. If only there was some way to send an email to more than one person simultaneously. Someone should really work on that. Perhaps they can use the old-school memo terminology based on carbon paper based copy technology? Something to ponder. |
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david ladowitz wrote:And / or include a pre-emptive reminder message to the originator that the alert is about to fire - with options to deliver that pre-emptive message by phone, text, email, etc.. And a definitely cringe-worthy suggestion: include in the alert a field for things to check before calling SAR - like try to call me at xxx.xxx.xxxx, or call my work buddy to see I showed up at work Monday morning. Make it so it can be turned off by text message. Or by a phone call. Or email. In short, by any practical means. Ways to set it up should be pretty versatile as well, allowing people to set it up at the last moment possible when wilderness plans are most accurate. And the whole service needs to be incredibly robust. Handling a request to turn it off can not fail. Handling that gets the alert message out can not fail. I guess also having folks sign a waiver would be advised. Do talk with SAR folks. I suspect what they we will want is as much detail as possible about the itinerary and not things aimed at helping them decide whether or when to respond. But I could be wrong. I did try out gmails scheduling of emails. Pretty easy though requires internet / cell data. And I do not think I would use such a service let alone pay for it. It is just too easy for me to leave the information and duty in the hands of someone who knows me well and is reliable. |
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Xam wrote: To you and the other upstream, for the OP to consider and add in. Sheesh. And how old are you, to remember carbon paper! Did you use it with your papyrus? Sucks trying to carbon a petroglyph...;-) H. |
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i too am working on an app that will deploy a hot air balloon from my phone. Then alert the authorities before I cannibalize strangers on a city bike path. YGD! Just jokes sorry. Another issue is plans change on the spot. Weather changes. People get lost. Predetermined plans sometimes change rapidly. I am not a technologically advanced individual and will probably never utilize this but if it saves one life go for it |
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Friend can set an alarm that will remind them you should be back and if they haven't heard from you, to alert someone? No special app needed... |