Beginners question.
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Seek proper instruction before you attempt to solo a route. Hire a guide, find some experienced climbers, but don't just go out and wing it. Some people might tell you that's how they learned, but you have a better chance of living if you get properly trained. |
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Sorry. At this point you have far too little knowledge to even ask this on the internet. It’s like asking what you need to do to drive a car without ever having driven before. |
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At the risk of this being a troll...here is some advice. Marc is correct. I have soloed for years and it takes a ton of knowledge and safety understanding. I have no less than 13 of these different devices. So....go rope climb w others who know and work into over time. Then you will love it. Try it now and u prob wont survive. |
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#YGD |
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You will do no such thing, young man! |
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Cpn Dunsel wrote: Masterful. The automatic "must be a troll" response. No, that isn't how you troll - the responses have been reasonable."...a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community ... with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses..." |
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Not a troll, not interested in rope climbing, I am not going to take "live lessons", but I want a backup rope to climb a certain route so I dont kill myself. I can easily freeclimb these routes, but as a paramedic, I have seen what falling into rocks can do to a body. |
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Lassi Nokelainen wrote: Not a troll, not interested in rope climbing, I am not going to take "live lessons", but I want a backup rope to climb a certain route so I dont kill myself. I can easily freeclimb these routes, but as a paramedic, I have seen what falling into rocks can do to a body. You're not interested in roped climbing, but you are going to use a rope. You're not interested in live lessons, but you want them over the Internet.Did you learn to be a paramedic over the Internet? "a master of knots and invest thousands of dollars" is pure hyperbole. |
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Lassi Nokelainen wrote: I can easily freeclimb these routes...You're not using the correct definition of "free climbing" - you're talking about "free soloing". |
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I think Lassi is asking about "Top Rope Soloing" |
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Lassi...while I appreciate your passion, the previous posters have made very valid points regarding your safety and that you not attempt to execute your plan to climb these routes solo without prior instruction. I, personally, learned the ropes by reading, observing, and trial and error, but wouldn't recommend it. Try looking through a copy of Freedom of the Hills. |
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I would like to reiterate what was already said. YOU GONNA DIE! Just you tube it. Make sure you use two capture devices. Separated so the don’t bind and fail. And make sure you study hard before attempting and protect your rope so you ain’t sawing over an edge. Good luck and be safe. I am not condoning your behavior. But I would recommend posting for an experienced partner on the partners forum. If you found a cool unknown crag someone may be willing to go along with you and show you the “ropes”. Shameful pun intended |
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Lassi, |
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Nobody ever taught me how to top rope solo. Been doing it for years , still alive,The petzel micro ascender has a picture on it showing how to set it up. Besides that you need a harness, a climbing rope, not a clothesline or boat rope. since its a short climb, you might be able to find a rope that someone has damaged one end . And a locking biner. A climbing biner not a hardware store biner. Its really not rocket science, chose a solid tree. Tie the rope to it, follow thru figure 8 is one of many options. Double check everything. Have fun |
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Lassi Nokelainen wrote: Hey What you're describing is called top-rope soloing, often abbreviated as TR soloing. This is NOT something that most new people learn how to do as it requires being very sure of your systems. No one can double check you and you don't have anyone that can provide first aid or call for help. Do so at your own risk. The simplest method would be to tie a UIAA climbing rated rope around a tree with a retraced figure 8 knot around the tree. On your climbing harness you'd have a climbing rated locking carabiner with a clove hitch that you would tighten as you climb. I would NOT recommend this as it is entirely manual, you may not find a good spot to pull rope through the knot, and if you fall with your fingers in a bad spot you may lose them. Using a gri-gri on the rope and a second locker with a clove hitch below it would be almost as inexpensive but far easier to manage. A dedicated TR solo setup wouldn't be much more though. A Petzl Micro Traxion and another ascender like the Petzl Microcender with lockers will feed much better than the gri-gri. |
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Thank you all for your help (even those who were hostile for some reason). I cannot reply to everyone individually because of post-limitations. I actually got advice offline from a climber, he suggested that I buy "Petzl Shunt-device". So I´m off to do some climbing, before the winter comes. |
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Don't take it personally there's just a lot of people on this site who are not kind. you are being smart wanting to use a rope to protect yourself if you're going to be up higher than you can safely land on the ground. |
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Lassi Nokelainen wrote: Not a troll, not interested in rope climbing, I am not going to take "live lessons", but I want a backup rope to climb a certain route so I dont kill myself. I can easily freeclimb these routes, but as a paramedic, I have seen what falling into rocks can do to a body. You're gonna die. |
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Lassi Nokelainen wrote: PS: Someone replied that I should not seek advice here, because english is not my native language. Is my english actually hard to understand or was he just a grammar-nazi? i just rescanned the thread. I did not see a response like that. The only comment on your language was from the guy who thinks your post is a troll. |
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You are absolutely misunderstanding the posters. They aint hostile, they are more experienced than you, and they have a much higher situational awareness than you are showing. And they are tryiing to keep just one more dead wanna be climber out of the cemetery for a few more weeks. |