NEW Black diamond Z4
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Climbing magazine just posted this article outlining the new black diamond Z4 micro cam. Seems like it will be a replacement for the x4's and the C3's with the same head width as the c3 units.
So let's get to the speculation! A new take on the alien? A last minute response to the DMM dragon flys? Plastic crap or modern material design? What's your hot take? |
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The lobes look very similar to Totem lobes. |
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Stokeed, wonder what they’ll retail for... |
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So the article states the 0 Z4 is smaller than the old 000 C3 but the full range of 7 cams goes all the way up to a .75.. |
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It's a specialized kit, maybe 1% of climbers will need these on their rack. |
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Black diamond is the walmart of outdoor shit according to some... |
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In fact, the no. 0 Z4 is Black Diamond's smallest cam to date.I'm guessing it should say "smallest [4 lobe] cam to date." looking at the vid: |
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I wonder if the small ones are lead rated |
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Jonathan Awerbuch wrote: I wonder if the small ones are lead rated Even if its not I would rather have something in that might hold than nothing at all. |
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How come no Y4? Is the Z4 really 2 better? I NEED ANSWERS!!! |
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Kevin Mokracek wrote: As someone who just had a marginal .3 x4 catch the majority of my fall to prevent a ground fall then pop to ease me to the ground, I second this! |
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They named it the Z4 to make it more confusing when ordering over the phone. "Ok, I have a .75 C4, would you like anything else today? No, thats Z4 not C4" |
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February 2020....fack.... been waiting for a C3 replacement for my small cams....but I don't really want to wait that long... |
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Kevin Mokracek wrote: They named it the Z4 to make it more confusing when ordering over the phone. "Ok, I have a .75 C4, would you like anything else today? No, thats Z4 not C4" What is “ordering over the phone”? |
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Jonathan Awerbuch wrote: I wonder if the small ones are lead rated nah man, toprope only for those puppies! |
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Kevin Mokracek wrote: They named it the Z4 to make it more confusing when ordering over the phone. "Ok, I have a .75 C4, would you like anything else today? No, thats Z4 not C4" are you sure that's Z4 and not zee 4? maybe the guy has a german accent and you will end up with a #4. |
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Jonathan Awerbuch wrote: I wonder if the small ones are lead rated Don't cams need to hold a minimum of 5kN to be certified? Or did I read that in a dream... Edit: EN-12276... confirmed it wasn't a dream |
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How to keep my Dragonfly preorder ot not LOL !!! Shy Guy wrote: Stokeed, wonder what they’ll retail for... 'The cams cost $10 less than the current X4 at $70 per Z4. With the release of the Z4, Black Diamond is slowly phasing out the X4 and C3.'
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Still dual axle in the .4 size. Thin lobe. Dumb idea. |
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Nick Drake wrote: Still dual axle in the .4 size. Thin lobe. Dumb idea. C4's and DMM Dragons (probably others?) go down to a 0.3 and have two axles. |
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February 2020?!?!?!? These will be out before i get my Dragonfly preorders!! Fack!! |