"Call Out" threads
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Old lady H wrote: As one who has had a generous amount of crap aimed my way, early on particularly? Thanks Helen, I agree with pretty much every point here. It's just the 5 percent of the time where it's unknown and not auditable. |
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Old lady H wrote: TL,DR? Nick can't be expected to "moderate" every post ever made on here. FWIW, I don't think Nick is moderating at all: Nick Wilder wrote: I stopped working for MP/REI about a month ago. I no longer manage users, deal with the forum, write code, fix bugs, or build features. I am still a regular volunteer admin (like the ~150 other volunteers) and can edit routes and areas.I think it is now "MP Team" that has been popping up here and there. |
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MojoMonkey wrote: Even more reason to clarify what would get your post deleted with new minds behind the delete button For the most part, I knew what would get deleted with Nick behind the wheel |
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Chris Blatchley wrote:Though I do think call outs with no chance of rebuttal are lame.If the person being called out doesn’t know they are being called out, because they aren’t on MP, are they really being called out? If it crosses over to another forum, like Fakebook or Twits, what is stopping them from rebutting there, or even rebutting on MP? There are no barriers to making an account here on MP and responding... |
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Chalk Norris wrote: What happened to freedom of speach? It got replaced by freedom of spelling. ;-) The "How Should Gear Be Divided" turned antivaxxer thread was deleted at the OP's request, was my understanding. A pity, as it was pure MP gold.A good rule of thumb for life as well as internet forums: if someone does something that you're bothered by, first approach the person privately and politely. If they won't listen, try again with a third party. After that point, it's fair game for calling people out in public, but be warned that those who sow the wind ... Some call-out threads are no more than ad hominems disguised in public service's clothing. Others are necessary, perhaps justified. But if I've learned anything in my brief time here, it's that shit-talking online only leaves you with a bad taste in your own mouth. |
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^changed that for you fritz!! thanks for catching that. |
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Thanks for the thread, Chris, and to everybody else for voicing your opinion. |
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Chris Blatchley wrote:All too frequently, giving someone feedback on why their post was deleted gets a really nasty response. Definitely not always, but all too frequently. The internet's a nasty place, and nobody's really figured out how to have thousands of people interact with each other in a way where everyone's happy. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air wrote:Light handed moderation turns forums into bags of greasy buttholes. |
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MP Team wrote: Thanks for the thread, Chris, and to everybody else for voicing your opinion. Wow, didn't know Nick "retired"! Thanks soooo much, sir! And Erik? Thanks for putting up with us. I truly am for the free speech end of the spectrum. Often, well, most of the time, somewhere around page 3 or 4, threads run off on a tangent. By 7ish? Deep into it. But somewhere in there? Some of the best stuff happens, either where Jim Titt or rgold come in with the minutiae of a technical point in a wildass tangent, or, a heated, snarky debate drags in some thoughtful posts.That last? Is where I have jumped in, now and then, and ended up with friends, people I look forward to meeting in person some day. How does that happen? I think it's because a conversation, a real one, has taken root. Personalities come out and we are all able to size each other up, when those conversations are a little more "real". Besides, it's also waaayyyyy more fun! I vote for a light touch by MP, but, the rest of us need to step up to the plate and jump in when someone's an ass. Personally, I HATE threads being deleted. That gear distribution one, had a good amount of grief for the OP, but it also had exactly what was supposedly requested: "how does this usually work". That, is good info, even if sloppily obtained. Best, Helen |
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Old lady H wrote: I'm not a fan of it either. I've spent time trying to post useful info in threads only to see the whole thing get tossed. Doesn't exactly encourage spending time on thoughtful posts. In fact I'm probably more likely to post quick/lame jokes now because who cares if those disappear? |
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Praise in public, criticize in private. |
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to be honest with you, unfortunately i think publicly shaming asshats (like chippers, rock graffiti artists, people getting caught stealing gear, etc) has a lot of upside. in the end, there are really only a couple things that will change a person - violence and intense public scorn. "empowerment" lasts about 30 seconds - kind of like when you see those late night commercials from a children's hospital and you get that deep feeling, only to find that it has evaporated by the time you found your checkbook. |