Dragonfly's in April? aka August in DMM land
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I emailed DMM and was assured they would be here in April, and attached an email address Excalibur@Mindspring.com, which came back undeliverable... |
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Needle sports has it on pre-order for april 15. needlesports.com/83566/prod… |
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I got to hold a rack of the dragonflies and play with them, in my true opinion the wait will be worth it amazingly flexible extremely light and strong compared to the size, there are two sizes smaller than the black alien so for us who are aid climbers it's a game changer. |
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The green is rated to 6 KN? Wow! |
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Any specs on head width? |
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stoked to incrementally replace my c3s with these.... |
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Jackson. wrote: Any specs on head width? I emailed them last month, and got the following reply “We don’t have production models yet, but the samples will be very close and they come in at a smidge under 30mm” Black totem for reference |
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Chris Hill wrote: How is that compared with other small cams (Aliens, Totem)? I don't have any frame of reference...thx |
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Jackson. wrote: Any specs on head width? That were the the same head width as aliens |
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Chris Hill wrote: Thanks Chris, so the head is not on par with the width of c3's... Bummer |
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Jaren Watson wrote: Just bumping to follow. If anyone hears updated information, please post. I am guessing/hoping/praying that the wait will be worth the hype. I am going to wait until the end of April before ordering something else. I have seen the prototypes and they look sweet. I am going for the middle three sizes. I would never use the smallest, and have the largest size in triple C3/Mastercam already. |
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https://www.campsaver.com/dmm-dragonfly-cam.html
Campsaver has the shipment availability listed as 7-19 days. |
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bkozak wrote: https://www.campsaver.com/dmm-dragonfly-cam.html And they are offering 20% off of orders, I pre-ordered the 3 smallest with the discount. |
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I talked to Lisa at excaliber a few days ago and her current best estimate for drivers date is now May 15. Hopefully. |
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I don’t know much about DMM, but how’s the quality? They say they are the last company to make them in the UK, but doesn’t Wild Country make their cams in the UK? |
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Christopher W wrote:but how’s the quality? Excellent. |
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Jared Chrysostom wrote: Better or the same as WC? I’m building my first rack, and want to do it right the first time. Thanks for the response! |
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Christopher W wrote:I’m newish also so I can’t speak with a ton of authority, but everything I have purchased from DMM has been of excellent quality and seems to be thought through very well. The Alloy Offsets and Peenuts can fit in almost any placement, my Dragon II cams just feel like they’re engineered and built to a high standard, and the Torque Nuts have a really useful extendable sling and can fill in for doubles on cams when you’re climbing moderate routes. One of my climbing buddies just bought a set of New Friends, and I have not used them yet, but the extendable sling definitely offers less extension than the one on the Dragons. |
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Christopher W wrote: Wild Country makes great gear and you can't go wrong with their stuff, but I'm a huge DMM fanboy. They don't make mediocre stuff that's made just to fill a hole in their line-up but rather they put a lot of thought in to their gear and try to offer innovative products. But all in all, any major manufacturer is going to make quality gear (Metolius, BD, Wild Country, DMM, Petzl, Trango) it just depends on what specific gear you're looking for and what your personal preferences are. Best thing is to climb with others and see what gear you like and dislike. |
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Christopher W wrote: I don’t know much about DMM, but how’s the quality? They say they are the last company to make them in the UK, but doesn’t Wild Country make their cams in the UK? IMO DMM's craftsmanship is the best in climbing. They tend to be a bit pricier than WC or BD but if you can afford it then you won't be disappointed. |
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Christopher W wrote: I don’t know much about DMM, but how’s the quality? They say they are the last company to make them in the UK, but doesn’t Wild Country make their cams in the UK? Wild Country have no production (or anything else) in the UK. They belong to Salewa in Italy. |