Sport Climbing Kit - Am I missing anything?

So I’m getting my own gear for sport climbing for the first time and so far this is what I’ve got on the list, am I missing anything or do you have any suggestions of something that could be added?

Items marked with * I already own

- 9.4 Climbing Rope
- 12 12cm Quickdraws
- Crag Bag
- PAS
- Cordlette
- 4 Screwgate Carabiners
- Belay Gloves
- Climbing Helmet
- Harness*
- Climbing Shoes*
- Belay Device and Screwgate Biner*
- Chalk Bag and chalk*
- Tape*
- Brush*

That's definitely enough to get the job done, but if you're asking for other ways to spend money, we can help.
Needed: rope bag or rope tarp if your crag bag doesn't have a tarp

Nice to have: 
-A few alpine draws to reduce rope drag on wandering routes
-small adjustable wrench to tighten loose bolts
-"granny draw," a quickdraw with lockers on either end (can quickly set up a good safe top rope with this and one quickdraw)

Sam Skovgaard wrote: That's definitely enough to get the job done, but if you're asking for other ways to spend money, we can help.
Needed: rope bag or rope tarp if your crag bag doesn't have a tarp

Nice to have:
-A few alpine draws to reduce rope drag on wandering routes
-small adjustable wrench to tighten loose bolts
-"granny draw," a quickdraw with lockers on either end (can quickly set up a good safe top rope with this and one quickdraw)

Ya the bag I’m looking at has a rope tarp built in. I’ll defenitely look into som alpine draws if I ever encounter a wandering route I’d like to do, and I’ll probably set up a top rope anchor with the cord and carabiners. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated!

J.T. Harris wrote: So I’m getting my own gear for sport climbing for the first time and so far this is what I’ve got on the list, am I missing anything or do you have any suggestions of something that could be added?

Items marked with * I already own

- 9.4 Climbing Rope
- 12 12cm Quickdraws
- Crag Bag
- PAS
- Cordlette
- 4 Screwgate Carabiners
- Belay Gloves
- Climbing Helmet
- Harness*
- Climbing Shoes*
- Belay Device and Screwgate Biner*
- Chalk Bag and chalk*
- Tape*
- Brush*

1 set RPs, 6 wag bags, 2 Yates screamers.  

Ditch the PAS and cordellette and buy two double length nylon runners for half the price. Buy a few feet of cord for a third hand while rappelling. And maybe go to 9.6 or 9.8 for rope, your going to need a new rope before the weight of the rope is affecting your climbing.

any respectable sport climber has a stick clip

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scott fuzz wrote: two boarder collies with out leashes-

Don't you know, Labradoodles is what everyone is buying now.

Consider something for a rappel backup. 

belay specs

+2 more lockers for the PAS and third hand

Honestly... buy an extra pack of 5 while you're at it. You can never own too many lockers imo. You'll use them at some point if not need them. And like others said, definitely get a thicker rope. Anywhere 9.8 to 10.2 is a pretty good range. Gives you good bit of wiggle room when you're hitting that learning curve and you're rubbing your rope in all the wrong ways outside.  I suggest that because it does sound like you also want to set up top ropes which will put a bit more wear on it.  Might even want to invest in 2 steel biners to run the rope through up top if that's the case.

What kind of belay device do you have?

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Ryan M Moore wrote: Ditch the PAS and cordellette and buy two double length nylon runners for half the price. Buy a few feet of cord for a third hand while rappelling. And maybe go to 9.6 or 9.8 for rope, your going to need a new rope before the weight of the rope is affecting your climbing.

Seriously. Good advice.

A rope tarp, doesn't need to be fancy. I also like to have a crazy creek chair to lounge on for comfort, but that is just me...I also bring a small piece of carpet to wipe my shoes on before I climb if they have any sand or dirt on them.

J.T. Harris wrote: Am I missing anything?

A trad rack.

If this is your first rope, consider getting something a little bit thicker because you're likely to beat it up while you learn how to take better care of it. Also get around 3 or 4 feet of 5mm accessory cord to tie into prusik loops and learn how to use them. You'll also want something to use as a foot loop, this could be the alpine draws you are already getting, a double length runner, or another length of accessory cord.

If you're really short, it can also be handy to have a "stiffy" draw that you can use to extend your reach a little bit to get the bolts that are just a few inches out of reach from a good stance or clipping hold. 

A really trusted belayer who knows how to belay a lead is the primary piece of gear for me. Or, a rope gun. :-)

Second getting a longer, stiff draw (or pair) with lockers, to set up for others to top rope your awesome rope gunning. If you invest in the carabineers with the steel inset, for the rope side, you'll save a lot of aluminum on your rope.

Depending on where you climb, you may well want to also have a bit of gear with you. Routes bolted in the 1990s can be pretty interesting.

Best, Helen

J.T. Harris wrote: So I’m getting my own gear for sport climbing for the first time and so far this is what I’ve got on the list, am I missing anything or do you have any suggestions of something that could be added?

Items marked with * I already own

- 9.4 Climbing Rope
- 12 12cm Quickdraws
- Crag Bag
- PAS
- Cordlette
- 4 Screwgate Carabiners
- Belay Gloves
- Climbing Helmet
- Harness*
- Climbing Shoes*
- Belay Device and Screwgate Biner*
- Chalk Bag and chalk*
- Tape*
- Brush*

I would do a 9.8 rope (60m). Maybe even a 10.1. Depends how many falls you plan to take on it. The larger diameter the rope has the more falls it can take... but the heavier it is. It's a trade off. I'd replace 4 of those quickdraws with alpine draws. I've only neede the extend on sport routes a handful of times. But when I had to I was thankful for the ability to do so. I'd recommend having a basic ATC for rappelling after cleaning and a second belay device (ATC guide, xp, or gri gri) for actually belaying. 

Adam Ronchetti wrote:

I would do a 9.8 rope (60m). Maybe even a 10.1. Depends how many falls you plan to take on it. The larger diameter the rope has the more falls it can take...

I'd recommend having a basic ATC for rappelling after cleaning and a second belay device (ATC guide, xp, or gri gri) for actually belaying. 

+1 for the first ATC, any more is merely overkill unless you plan on needed to use 2 at the same time (give to someone else to rap with you).  Would definitely suggest a gri gri if you're already a competent belayer though. If not, keep practicing w the ATC and buy one once you are.  I'd much rather have a belayer that took care and paid attention than one that just smacked on a gri gri and grabbed a cookie and coke while I was climbing. It's handsfree right?

Ditch the PAS.  A stick clip is key though.  Especially when your confidence isn't there yet and you have some high first bolts.