Black Diamond Eldorado-Packed Size???
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I am trying to get a mental picture of what the packed size of black diamond eldorado (sans vestibule) is compared to something like a nalgene |
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Burly 4 season tents aren't small sadly, especially ones a full sized human can fit into. |
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holy cow! that thing is a monster....thanks thats exactly what i needed to see. |
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Here it is next to a Firstlight, which sadly I don't fit in. |
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jdejace wrote: Here it is next to a Firstlight, which sadly I don't fit in. I haven't actually laid down in a firstlight or the I tent, (both have the 82" floor) but i am 6'3 and am fairly confident it would be terrible to sleep in unless it was like a 1 night hit-and run alpine objective, even then...dropping $700 on a tent that i dont fit in and wont use very often seems....sub-optimal? I have been curious about the Rab Latok 2, its supposed to be the same dimensions as the eldorado but it is a full pound lighter, i wonder if that means its more pack able? |
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I'm 6'1" and thought the Firstlight was too small, the ends of my sleeping bag were squished. The external length of my "long" expedition bag is ~84in sooo...yeah. The tall struggle is real. |
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Here's my EV2 next to a BD Speed 30. It's not like you're going to fit any of these in a small pack with climbing gear. |
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woof. |
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I think it's nicer than the Firstlight. I prefer the outer poles. But it's even smaller. Better pack some warm booties and a hot water bottle because your sleeping bag footbox will be compromised. |
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well i usually sleep curled up in a ball crying so it shouldnt really be a problem. |
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How is the Jannu for a tall guy, out of curiosity? |
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Pretty ideal for me. The 90" floor is really really nice (as said earlier im 6'3") my feet dont touch the 'footwall' (not to be confused with football) and the head-side terminates close to the peak height so you don't have the 'claustrophobia' of a standard dome style. I can sit up in it easily. |
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So with an inflatable sleeping pad and a big winter sleeping bag the ends of the bag don't touch the walls? Nice. |
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jdejace wrote: So with an inflatable sleeping pad and a big winter sleeping bag the ends of the bag don't touch the walls? Nice.
exactly. its friggin great. and worse case scenario (for even taller folk) you could just slide your head toward the door (or open the door and stick your head out a little bit) that way your footbox wont ever touch the footwall of the tent. |
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I happened to order the Rab last week. If you decide you don't want to sleep in the fetal position in the MSR and can carry an extra 14oz, I think you'd probably be happier with it. The ends of my -20F bag just touch the walls, but it's more of a condensation issue (that you could alleviate by wrapping the footbox in a shell) than actually compressing your insulation like the Firstlight and I imagine the MSR. It's also wider if you're gonna fit another human in there. It's definitely intended for cold weather, the door and vent don't have bug netting. |
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good to know! hows the packed size on that bad boy? similar to the eldorado i imagine? |
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I've never owned an Eldo so can't say for sure. |
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nice! thanks |