Metolious ultralight master cams

Looking to build a trad rack for the nrg and rrg. Thinking about geting some metolios utralights and want to know some opinions

I love the mastercams, I use the 0, 1, and 2 most times I go out. The next size I have is the 6 which I also like but I slightly prefer other cams in the larger sizes. A single rack of mastercams is a great option and if you get doubles in any sizes I'd get BD or DMM, or if you're rich, totems. It's nice to have doubles in a different brand because they will fit certain placements better.

I don't climb in those areas but I do have a few master cams. I have 0-4 and am very happy with them. The trigger action is stiff and feels good in the hand. The blue and yellow (1 and 2) are my favorite cams, I carry them on every climb.

The 0 isn't flexy enough for me and I prefer Alien Revos at those really tiny sizes. The lack of thumb loops seems like more of a mental thing than a practical concern. I've been gripped and struggled to place an X4 just as much as a MC.

The 4 is about as big as I would go with the master cams as it feels a bit floppy and I expect the bigger ones would be worse about that. I would lean toward the new Friends for the bigger sizes if I were to build my rack again. That said, the Metolius are really solid cams and are usually the first I go for when I need a piece in their size.

The new Ultralight MasterCams stems are appropriately stiff in the larger sizes.

Used to like them. I have the new ones now and miss the thumb loop. Prefer Aliens by a wide margin

Yeah.  I loved the old ones and really don't love the new ones.  The lack of a thumbloop forces you to basically relearn the process of moving the cam from your harness to your hand while placing.  Additionally, not having the thumbloop for aid climbing is decidedly a step backwards.  With C3s discontinuing, the de-evolution of mastercams, and Totem basics getting recalled, I'm a little concerned about what small cams I'm going to be using in 2-4 years.

I have to say despite the fact I thought I would, I don't miss the thumb loop at all, but then I also don't really do much aid climbing.

I like em but they're not perfect. the 4 (red) and 8 (purple) are a little floppy, and you definitely notice the lack of range relative to camalots toward the larger sizes. The 00 is also not a great piece, the 0.1 x4 or black alien is a much better option if you really need something that tiny. They're really great cams in general though, they're super freaking light and a much much better deal than camalot ultralights and only $3 a pop to resling. I've never minded the lack of a thumb loop but YMMV. Overall, highly recommended for a first set of cams.

Had a few of the old ones, and one new one. Loved the old ones, no thumb loop made the new one a little awkward sometimes to place. That being said I still use rigid stem friends and I don’t find those awkward at all to place

Get 0 through 4 (purple through red) and nothing larger.  

The smaller sizes are great and TCUs/supercams/mastercams are my go to cams for that size range, but the decreased camming range (single axle design and larger cam angle) is a lot more noticeable for the larger sizes so go with C4s for those.

You can't go wrong with a set of 0-8 ul mastercams.  Lightest cams on the market, and probably the most durable too.  

Metolius has awesome CS for any repairs.

Tavish Hansen wrote: Get 0 through 4 (purple through red) and nothing larger.  

The smaller sizes are great and TCUs/supercams/mastercams are my go to cams for that size range, but the decreased camming range (single axle design and larger cam angle) is a lot more noticeable for the larger sizes so go with C4s for those.

Disagree with this.  May take some learnimg, but I've always liked that I have an additional cam to place in the medium to larger sizes compared to BD.  

Most of my friends and myself included climb in the RRG with doubles of Mastercam from 1-2 and Doubles BD .5-3, Single 4 and a set of nuts

They are bomber for the price but my favorite thing about them is that they are low profile; like fit a whole single rack in a camelback small! I like having these to be between some of the standard sizes and it can feel like having a triple rack on non splitter routes for example. E.I. Route calls for .4 x 3 and I rack up with a .4 and a yellow and orange Metolius.