Female MP partner-seeking posts...

...and the many, many replies we get.

My question, the answers to which will be purely for my own entertainment, is this:

Why, when I (an experienced and equipped but not super strong female climber) put up a post seeking a partner/s, do I receive responses in spades? I know I'm not the only one who has observed or experienced this phenomenon. The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

What does it mean to receive responses in spades?

ViperScale . wrote: What does it mean to receive responses in spades?

It means beaucoup responses.

FrankPS wrote:

It means beaucoup responses.

And that means?

Your profile says you can follow low 12s.  If you are a safe belay and can reliably clean low 12s, you are a pretty attractive partner.

I respond to almost all partner requests in my area, and generally with a private email. Gender is irrelevant to that response, though I have noticed, the ladies typically don’t respond back as frequently as the guys.

I guess I could flip the insinuation by saying 38 yo, married, father of two with 20+ years of climbing experience must not be what they’re looking for when they post looking for partners.

ViperScale . wrote:

And that means?

It means "use a dictionary". :)

ViperScale . wrote:

And that means?

Beacoup is french for “a lot” or “very much” if you’re looking to avoid the snarky response.

You’ve posted looking for gunks and Colorado partners, both have high populations of climbers. Why wouldn’t you expect numerous responses, especially given the grades you state you climb at? Not everything is about gender. 

James Schroeder wrote: I respond to almost all partner requests in my area, and generally with a private email. Gender is irrelevant to that response, though I have noticed, the ladies typically don’t respond back as frequently as the guys.

I guess I could flip the insinuation by saying 38 yo, married, father of two with 20+ years of climbing experience must not be what they’re looking for when they post looking for partners.

I'll climb with you, James. I'll be 38 this year, also have 2 kids, but I've only been climbing 3 years. In fact, I think I was given your beta for Birch Tree Crack. I'll let you know next time we're headed to DL.

Andrew Krajnik wrote:

I'll climb with you, James. I'll be 38 this year, also have 2 kids, but I've only been climbing 3 years. In fact, I think I was given your beta for Birch Tree Crack. I'll let you know next time we're headed to DL.

Sounds good!

Katie Church wrote: ...and the many, many replies we get.

My question, the answers to which will be purely for my own entertainment, is this:

Why, when I (an experienced and equipped but not super strong female climber) put up a post seeking a partner/s, do I receive responses in spades? I know I'm not the only one who has observed or experienced this phenomenon. The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

Some guys just get along better with women than other men. The opposite is also true. Most of my climbing partner responses have come from women.

There's also an inherent learning benefit in belaying someone with a very different style of climbing! The women I've seen climb have generally been better technicians at the same grade as men, due to general height and muscle mass differences.

Do you get more women replying, too?

I suspect regardless of their relationship status a significant portion of men will gravitate towards being around attractive people rather than unattractive.

Thought experiment: Andy Kirkpatrick or Natalie Portman as your climbing partner? Tough choice....

 

Perhaps, in addition to the other reasons above, this is a variant on the "mansplaining" phenomenon?

Katie Church wrote: ...and the many, many replies we get.

My question, the answers to which will be purely for my own entertainment, is this:

Why, when I (an experienced and equipped but not super strong female climber) put up a post seeking a partner/s, do I receive responses in spades? I know I'm not the only one who has observed or experienced this phenomenon. The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

Dudes dig chicks, chicks dig dudes, sometimes dudes dig dudes and chicks dig chicks but not as often as dudes digging chicks and chicks digging dudes. In climbing dudes way out number the chicks so using #science we can answer your question but I recommend not over thinking it and just focus on digging climbing.

Katie Church wrote: ...and the many, many replies we get.

My question, the answers to which will be purely for my own entertainment, is this:

Why, when I (an experienced and equipped but not super strong female climber) put up a post seeking a partner/s, do I receive responses in spades? I know I'm not the only one who has observed or experienced this phenomenon. The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

Yeah, what gives? I stopped looking for partners in forums, only got to climb couple of times with people that responded. I’ll go out on a limb, offer my gear, car and time to total strangers to have a good time and always end up butt hurt. Then I see some chick that just started to climb, no gear, needs a ride, will be in CO in September  and responses come in spades. What gives?! 

Katie Church wrote: ...and the many, many replies we get.

My question, the answers to which will be purely for my own entertainment, is this:

Why, when I (an experienced and equipped but not super strong female climber) put up a post seeking a partner/s, do I receive responses in spades? I know I'm not the only one who has observed or experienced this phenomenon. The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

'Cause we don't want some dude mansplaining our way up the crag?

Katie Church wrote: The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

so you can imagine that they're not looking for a romantic opportunity..

can you imagine that they might be looking for climberfriends on behalf of their significant other, who might be more stoked about climbing with another woman??  (betasharing between men and women often is muddled  due to height/weight/ape differences)

maybe the guy has a bunch of guy friends and the gal doesn't have a bunch of gal friends?

or you know.. maybe the "climbing community" (especially those who actively post seeking climbingpartners, especially those who get on level 12 routes..) is actually much smaller than you percieve?

It’s a trap

Girls are better climbers. Proven fact. Don't question it. 

Katie Church wrote: 
The puzzling aspect is that I know that the guys who respond aren't looking for a romantic opportunity; indeed, many already have a significant other. What gives?

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