Need a little help (Survey) for an academic essay on the morality of free soloing
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Hi everyone, |
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You are right, I am native french speaker. I tried my best to describe my vision of the different level of expertise because I felt like just "expert" doesn't mean much in itself. |
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That was honestly probably the worst survey I've ever taken. It reads like it was written by someone who has little to no understanding of climbing. I try not to be negative, but that survey was truly not good at all. |
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Thank you for your insight buddy! Now, what could you tell me that would improve the survey? Just to remind you, the goal was to get people's opinion on the morality of one aspect of climbing that is generally (IMHO) not well represented in the media. |
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The questions you ask are too vague. They make no distinction between someone like Alex Honnold and some dingus that has no business soloing, going up some loose choss pile to impress someone. You can't possibly hope to glean any understanding of the "morality of soloing" with such a blunt, feeble attack at understanding it. Furthermore, if by "morality" you mean publicizing free soloists and the influence that has on the general public and encouraging them to do the same, I don't think that's a matter of morality. That's just natural selection at work. Make natural selection great again. |
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"How it works is called "fear." Humans are born with only two fears: of loud noises and falling. These fears are so evolutionary beneficial that they never really go away. Soloing is a direct confrontation with a core fear so deeply ingrained that we're born with it and die with it. You can't simply decide not to be terrified when you're clinging to the rock in a high place, and that deep, bowel-shaking terror keeps soloing unpopular regardless of magazine coverage (23)." |
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Survey taken ... agree that group size has zero to do with level of expertise ... morons lead/follow morons ... |
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s.price wrote: If this thread was about the Toxicity of free soloing it would be 12 pages by now and your survey a huge success. (Fun thread-drift is fun, can we make this a thing) I mean how dare you suggest hijacking this nice man's thread! |
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I couldn't make it past the first question. I'm somewhere beyond intermediate but I neither climb by myself nor "often bring groups". |
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I agree with many comments that your group delineation is unclear and potentially damning to the aims of your survey. For example, I am a licensed guide, but I am on the short end of a long career. I've noticed that my age and physical health have effected my free-soloing skills, and in that endeavor, these have all been negative effects. But does that change my category? |
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Jay Harrison wrote: I agree with many comments that your group delineation is unclear and potentially damning to the aims of your survey. Surveys, in general, merely confirm the opinions of the person/people who created them. For example, define "morality" in this context, make that definition unbiased, and then ensure that all your respondents respect your definition. Impossible. And since you can not control who responds and who does not, you do not get a fair representation of the group surveyed. Thus conclusions drawn from surveys very rarely represent reality. In fact, their conclusions are mostly are bullshit. For example: every political survey you've ever seen. Dear O.P.: there has been more written on this subject than on perhaps any other in climbing. From Messner to Hargreaves, Erickson and Collins, Hersey and Bachar. Why don't YOU do the research (a.k.a. work) and read some small fraction of what's already been written, instead of wasting other peoples' time with yet another vague and bogus survey. Or better yet, come up with a new topic that hasn't already been hashed over a million times. Doh. |
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I used worse sources for my degree. Just mention the candidates had decades of experiences... Those decade may be aggregate, but decades none the less. |
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there were two questions that even get close to morality in the survey. |
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Take it easy, folks. he'll get all the necessary feedback on his measurement tool from his teachers. and i liked the variation on the Likert scales. kindof a cool way to think about it. |
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Alright so I had a long response adresses to every single post on this thread but when I tried to post it the website crashed. So I'll just adress the main issues. |
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Robert Hall wrote: "The Only Blasphemy" "The only blasphemy: to willfully jeopardize my own existence" |
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Noah Boudreau-Richard wrote: I am sorry to have wasted a few minutes of some of your lives... This survey was not written in hopes of publishing any study. I am simply a student who loves climbing and had to conduct a small (10 questions) survey that could be answered in under 5 minutes. The survey had to be on the morality of something related to my field of study (adventure tourism). Noah, If I understand this correctly, you were assigned to write a survey and the results are irrelevant? In that case, it's quite likely your instructor is trying (I hope so) to teach you something deeper than how to write a survey, and have you come to that knowledge yourself. That "morality" was the assigned topic is key. The subject of morality is long, wide, deep, multi-colored, shiny, dull, personal, social, culturally varied and contaminated with laws and prejudice. A 5-minute survey can not even start to define even a narrow slice. Maybe that's the assignment -- to have you realize that. |
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LOL! |
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grog m aka Greg McKee wrote: "How it works is called "fear." Humans are born with only two fears: of loud noises and falling. These fears are so evolutionary beneficial that they never really go away. Soloing is a direct confrontation with a core fear so deeply ingrained that we're born with it and die with it. You can't simply decide not to be terrified when you're clinging to the rock in a high place, and that deep, bowel-shaking terror keeps soloing unpopular regardless of magazine coverage (23)." Greg, I also have fears of drowning and burning to death. I feel like I was born with those, too. Can we say we were born with four fears? :)So many ways to die! |