John Byrnes wrote:Just for fun, I'm going to post a contrary comment: Don't bother recording it, unless you're going to show it to someone who actually can see your weaknesses & inefficiencies.
In other words, you won't even see the mistakes you're making, the other possible sequences, etc. so why bother recording it? You need someone who can see them, and suggest alternatives, best if they've done the route and have it wired.
What's the old saw? "You can't see the big picture when you are IN the picture."
Yeah the devil's advocate hein? I agree with the basis of the argument, just not sure that it is an all-or-nothing case.
For example, let's say you play chess (or most games, really). Of course, a better player would be able to achieve more in reviewing your games than you will be able to do on your own. However, it doesn't mean there's not value in reviewing your games. In other words, the fact that there's less of a return on investment with a purely DIY approach doesn't mean there's not returns...
The important factor about that (e.g. how much value there is in self-criticizing your stuff versus having it done by some coach/mentor), imo, is whether or not there are things you would be able to see with some sort of step back that you would not necessarily be able to see in the thick of it.
In chess, this is largely due to 2 things - you can't try out alternative lines while in the game (you have to do it all mentally) and you have limited time to explore alternatives. Plus you can't check out references on classic positions while in the game. Even in the absence of a coach, it is worthwhile to review games in chess (let's even forget computer analysis which could be seen as a coach)
The question is more - is there enough difference between the step back analysis in climbing vs just climbing for it to be worthwhile?
I'm probably going to try it - I will probably not buy a camera just for that, at least not now. I like the phone approach and see how far that gets me. In a sense, asking that question here probably saved me 100$ at least for now - so not a bad return on investment!
Drones: Dude, you're really trying to raise hell aren't you? It would be awesome, but seing how things are going with drones @ crags, I feel I would either have to use it when no one's around or risk raising hell. Plus it's 500$, I'll get a couple cams before I buy the drone. That being said, if I was flushed with cash, I would probably do it. Plus you get even sicker footage for when you do send....
Lena: I think actually, if you could have someone taking rapid shots for all the climb, it would perhaps be better to analyze things. IDK, it feels like it may be easier to seach & categorize than a movie. But yeah, given the logistics of it, not gonna happen... I used to be the photograph while climbing. Then I realized that I preferred to be on the sharp end rather than hanging at an anchor waiting for climbers. PRobably most climbers feel the same....