Revo a good device for begginers?
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I just started at a climbing gym about a month ago and I wanted to get into crag climbing. I bought some good shoes but now I just need to get a harness, locking carabiner, rope, and most importantly a good belay device. I don't really have that many friends that climb? How do you find a belay partner. I was thinking I could just show up to the crag and ask someone to belay me, but not sure on the proper etiquette. Either way it would be safer than trying someone new. I figure, if I get a foolproof belay device like the revo, maybe it would be safer to trust a stranger? I know that being a good climber doesn't mean you will be a good belayer, so I will look out for the people who use proper belay technique. Also since the revo works like a normal belay device and not the Grigri(which I have been told is infamous for lowering accidents) It should be easy for a random climber to belay me without practicing first on the device. Plus it is basically fall-proof since it will lock up no matter what. I also plan to use the approach that I am basically "free soloing" so that way I never truly rely on the rope. Does this work in the real world? |
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There are some apps to find climbing partners in your area. One decent app is called "climb buddy". You can also try using the partner finder on MP. Sometimes local gyms have get togethers to meet other people to climb with. I started out using a BD ATC and then after a bit bought a GriGri 2. So far I haven't had a problem with my GriGri 2. They built in a feature that if you pull the lowering lever too hard it locks up so you don't send your partner flying down to the ground. I would take the time to read reviews on gear institute and outdoor gear lab in addition to going into the pro shop at the gym or REI to talk the staff there. |
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Assuming this isn’t trolling, which it hopefully is... No, no and no. The Revo is a brand new device that most people have never (and probably will never) use. It is not foolproof, nor are any other devices for that matter. You will be much safer belayed by somebody using a device they’re familiar with. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Grigris; in fact, they’re probably still the safest devices you can use, but again it’s the belayer that matters, not the device. I’d recommend either hiring a Guide or finding competent people at your gym if you want to climb outside. Your first outdoor climbing experience shouldn’t be with random strangers you met at the crag. |
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Could be trolling, but if it really Clay Marzo I could see this as a earnest question. Clay is an awesome surfer, one of the worlds best FYI. Maybe got sick of not being recognized because he doesnt win competitions but is actually way better of a surfer than a lot of the dudes that do win |
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If you've only been climbing indoors for a month, I would suggest that you try to partner up with someone from your gym with a little outdoor experience who doesn't mind taking you out to a local crag, setting up top ropes, and letting you climb. Or you could always try to sign up for a guided outing through your gym, local REI/climbing store, or alpine/rock climbing club. You don't want to show up at a crag and try to join a random group of people if you have zero outdoor experience and have only been climbing for a month. That would be a huge red flag to any group who might consider letting you join them in the parking lot. Also, IMO I want my belayer to use whatever device THEY are most comfortable with. If I trust them to belay me, I trust them to chose the device of their choice. If I don't trust them, no device changes that fact. Finally, no belay device is fool proof, and you should learn proper technique regardless of what device is being used. I started out on an ATC, but now prefer a Grigri 2 for everything but multipitch. All devices are safe if you use proper technique. All devices can fail if you don't. I'm sure even the Revo's has modes of potential failure, but I have no personal experience to justify this opinion. |
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1/10 |
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Elements of a good troll should be treated like juggling balls; The more elements the greater the act but also the more skill and subtlety that is required to pull it off. |
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King Tut wrote: You're right for the wrong reasons. I'm inclined to give 3/10. OP, your trolling efforts would bare more fruit over here |
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jg fox wrote: I'd actually be interested in seeing what the Taco would do to him. I'd give 2/10 for the free soloing addition. |
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Clay!!! I own your fins man! They rip and now I do too!! |
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Could be a troll, but Clay Marzo is a very earnest person. Could be for real, who knows. |
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Auden Alsop wrote: With all the virtue signaling, politi-tard threads, and ethic lynch mobs; I believe this troll could rile them up. OP, go over to Supertopo and register as “Jared Kushner.” |
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jg fox wrote: LOL! |
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If this isn't a troll, which I doubt, Ted and Chris answered your question pretty well OP. |
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That’s a lot of buzzwords, jokes and debate triggers in one paragraph. -Foolproof belay device -Fall proof belay device -Deadly GriGri -Asking random belayers to use YOUR device of choice, without practice, in the name of safety -Good climbers don’t necessarily mean good belayer -Gym to crag -Have shoes. Now just need (everything else) -Free soloing until comfortable with belayer -and more |
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Imagine that though! Marzo is such an eccentric. He does the same tricks over and over in surfing but they’re the most bad ass and impossible tricks that no one does quite like him. And he lands them most of the time. If he were climbing he would maybe just dyno from hold to hold and campus his climbs in a way no climber has done before. Also, speaking of eccentrics, does anyone have any examples of climbers that are autistic but climb extraordinarily well. I find it so fascinating and uplifting seeing the success their able to achieve. |
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Welcome Clay. If you tackle climbing like surfing you'll do very well. Can the troll police lighten up just a bit. Sheesh. |
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Michael Hase wrote: Gri 2 doesn't have antipanic. You may mean the plus? Just don't want people getting confused. |
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Clayton Marzo wrote: Probably your best joke. Clever in its subtlety. |