RACK ENVY

eli poss wrote:

Does it also work as a cheaper alternative to a Valley Giant #9? Cause I can spare the weight for anything that isn't super versatile/

Sure does. It's even got a nice loop to clip a draw into. Rated at 15 kN

eli poss wrote:

Damn dude, that's a lot of screamers. You aid a lot of choss?

Ever heard of sedona?

Chase Bowman wrote:

Ever heard of sedona?

Yep, I've heard they have a lot of very soft sandstone. I'd love to visit and climb there some time, get a good chossaneering adventure

nLuke Werner wrote:

And now the right....

couldnt resist :D

No, your gear goes in that.

Happy to finally have my modest rack organized. i still have to find a spot for my ropes and its missing my few pieces of gym gear but I'm happy with it.

Come on I want to see your big beautiful racks!

Adam Gellman wrote:

Not big or glamorous but its how I hang it in my college dorm

Really it is all about how it hangs, isn't it?

After years of jealously watching this thread: 'My preciousssssss!'

schoenwetter kraxler wrote:

After years of jealously watching this thread: 'My preciousssssss!'

holy shit...

schoenwetter kraxler wrote:

After years of jealously watching this thread: 'My preciousssssss!'

Where are the big bros and valley giants???

schoenwetter kraxler wrote:

After years of jealously watching this thread: 'My preciousssssss!'

Holy shit, I wish I had this rack (although I could live with a little less iron). Is that a triple set of totems? That's what every climber needs in his/her rack

schoenwetter kraxler wrote:

AndrewArroz wrote:

No avalanche beacons? What if your rack falls over on you and buries you? How will they find your body?

How will they recover the plastic nuts?! Oh the horror!

Joe Lindberg wrote:

How will they recover the plastic nuts?! Oh the horror!

The funny part about the plastic nuts is that while the smaller 4 units are lighter than the corresponding DMM Wallnuts from which the manufacturer stole the shape design, the 4 larger units are actually heavier than the equal sizes in aluminum, because you can't machine such big holes into the plastic without endangering the structural stability of the piece. So in sum, the weight is about the same as a set of normal aluminum nuts. They bite well but not overly so compared to aluminum and are otherwise rather unremarkable compared to normal ones.

The real problem of this rack is how to bring it over the pond from Europe to the States for a Yosemite trip. The weight seems prohibitive for flying, and the size of the ledge brings additional complications. None of the airlines seem to recognize climbing gear as sport equipment for cheaper transport (as opposed to golf clubs, scuba gear or surf boards...). I'd be thankful for any hints how to handle this particular problem.

schoenwetter kraxler wrote:

The funny part about the plastic nuts is that while the smaller 4 units are lighter than the corresponding DMM Wallnuts from which the manufacturer stole the shape design, the 4 larger units are actually heavier than the equal sizes in aluminum, because you can't machine such big holes into the plastic without endangering the structural stability of the piece. So in sum, the weight is about the same as a set of normal aluminum nuts. They bite well but not overly so compared to aluminum and are otherwise rather unremarkable compared to normal ones.

The real problem of this rack is how to bring it over the pond from Europe to the States for a Yosemite trip. The weight seems prohibitive for flying, and the size of the ledge brings additional complications. None of the airlines seem to recognize climbing gear as sport equipment for cheaper transport (as opposed to golf clubs, scuba gear or surf boards...). I'd be thankful for any hints how to handle this particular problem.

well you could start by selling your ledge in Europe and getting a D4 ledge that's much better here in the states. 

Could you put your ledge in a golf bag or in a ski bag they would never know.

Alex Drew wrote:

Could you put your ledge in a golf bag or in a ski bag they would never know.

Has anyone ever tried that yet? It sounds really clever to make use of the "first bag of ski equipment or golf is free" policy, but it is hard to believe that it works. If it was so easy, wouldn't people just do this for their normal luggage all the time?

schoenwetter kraxler wrote:

Has anyone ever tried that yet? It sounds really clever to make use of the "first bag of ski equipment or golf is free" policy, but it is hard to believe that it works. If it was so easy, wouldn't people just do this for their normal luggage all the time?

Try carrying a ski bag that is filled with clothes and not skis. 

As Thumper would say, "you're gonna have a bad time"